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Wellness Wednesday for May 24, 2023

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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Do you consider your current eating habits to be ingrained too deeply for you to change them without medication? My uncle used to be a jolly fat dude for decades until he flipped the switch and became a wiry endurance cyclist.

I think that part of the reason so many of us have difficulty with self-controlled weight loss is the rarity of examples like your uncle; that's an incredible story that can serve as a powerful "carrot" for many who know him. 90% of adulthoods are descents into overfed and underactive lives, so I imagine many people lack the evidence that such a transformation is even possible.

And one of the reasons why such stories are rare is because the whole world is biased against you. Even my aunt wasn't happy with him, because now he would eat different food at different times, would dress as a MAMIL and leave home at 7am on weekends. His career in sales also went through a crisis, as his existing customer relationships were based in no small part on shared love of food and drink, forcing him to rebuild his portfolio.

Exercise generally sucks for weight loss. thin people tend to eat less, that is were the thinness comes from, not the exercise. i remember i did 50 miles of hiking in a week, lost a pound, which was within the noise. i did 16 days of consecutive hiking, minimum of 2-3k elevation day each hike, scant weight loss. getting omicron soon after did it though, lost 7 pounds even though didn't feel that sick.

Yeah, exercise only works if you do lots of it every damn day. Appalachian trail through-hikers can get lean as fuck, but that's not 16 days of hiking, more like 160.

I've improved them gradually over the years. Portions have gotten smaller, I enjoy vegetables (especially grilled) etc.

But I can't quit occasionally having a decadent cheeseburger or getting multiple items at Taco Bell. It's not a stretch to say that 3-4 times a week I have a 1,000 calorie meal. Sometimes I'll counterbalance that with 1-3,000 calorie bike ride but then I'm pretty frickin hungry etc.

I don't eat breakfast or drink soda, but when I've done calorie counting I'm consistently above what I need to be at for true weight loss. I suppose part of it is that eating is second only to sex in terms of sublime pleasures that makes life worth living. If I have to eat salad every day I'd kinda rather just die.

Eating salad every day sounds great. I love carrot-and-radish salad, I don't get to eat it often enough. I get what you mean, though. The place I usually order takeout from makes some great beef quesadilla (I'm sure Mexicans would disagree, but it's head and shoulder above any other quesadillas I've had in Russia), but a single portion is 583 kcal, which means I have to plan around it if I want to have one for dinner while I'm still dieting.

If you're not having breakfast then shouldn't your meals be 1k+ calories each, every day? Or are you a tiny elderly woman?

I'll put it this way, it's the calories in part of the equation. I know that much. 2 big meals and two lattes hits that 2,400 mark. I just have taken all the low hanging fruit people typically think of and still love red meat and cheese, as a rule