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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 15, 2023

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My point is that Jews are enormously overrepresented in establishing and developing these sectors. The direction in which they take things tends to be more radical and transgressive. It stands to reason that if there weren't any Jews, then there would be much less in the way of pornography and casual sex generally. The most sex-oriented big dating apps are tinder and grindr, both founded by Jews. More lovey-dovey, long-term relationship apps like OKCupid and Bumble were founded by Europeans.

Not all horrendous ideas in the world are from Jews: Gentler for instance proudly sent orphans in Germany off to live with pedophiles and got dozens of men acquitted of molestation, Foucault campaigned for the abolition of the age of consent, presumably so he could have sex with children. There was a postwar vibe that was excessively libertine, where barriers that should not have been touched were broken. The Frankfurt school had a lot to do with this attitude of course.

Immigration and refugee resettlement in the US stems significantly from Jews. The 1965 Immigration Law was introduced by Emmanuel Celler. Sure, it was passed by many non-Jews too. But consider Proposition 187 which sought to stem illegal immigration in California, which was approved democratically but then blocked by Mariana Pfaelzer.

My point is that Jews are enormously overrepresented in establishing and developing these sectors.

This is what we call shifting the goalposts.

You made a lot of claims about Jews essentially being responsible for modern hardcore pornography, and when that was knocked down, now it's "Well, they're enormously overrepresented."

How exactly do you quantify "enormously," anyway? More overrepresented than they are in the media generally?

My question for you is the same I have for all the Joo-posters: you play this game of trying to get everyone to Notice things, but never spell out what you think the significance is. Are Jews just natural degenerates with a biological compulsion to subvert and corrupt? Is there something in Judaism that you think is a causal link to pornography? If we agree that yeah, lots of Jews are involved in porn - okay, so what? Lots of Asian women and black men are too, but we can probably come up with some obvious hypotheses about that which do not involve Asian women or black men being inherently degenerate.

You clearly want us to draw conclusions, but you Darkly Hint at them without being willing to spell out what you think the causal link is.

There are a whole lot of racialized theories that are based solely on "Those People make up X% of the population but Y% of this group," but it's only when Y is greater than X for your favorite outgroups where, rather than consider obvious historical and cultural pressures and even happenstance, we're supposed to attribute it to something sinister and inherent about Those People.

And I'm open to HBD explanations, to the degree that I think that IQ has a lot of explanatory power for many things. But I have yet to see a HBD explanation for Jew-Noticing that doesn't boil down to something about as scientific as Hitler's racial theories.

The direction in which they take things tends to be more radical and transgressive. It stands to reason that if there weren't any Jews, then there would be much less in the way of pornography and casual sex generally.

No, this does not stand to reason. Wow, dude, above when it's pointed out that Jews are responsible for some major scientific breakthroughs, you said "Well, someone else would have discovered that if a Jew hadn't." Yet online porn and casual sex, apparently, is something so uniquely Jewish that without Jews, no one else would have ever invented PornHub and OnlyFans and Tinder?

It stands to reason that if there weren't any Jews, then there would be much less in the way of pornography and casual sex generally.

So true.

This is why there was no pornography in ancient world before it was influenced by Jews.

This is why pornography was unknown in Christian countries of old where only handful of Jews lived, for example 18th century France and Britain.

This is why there is no pornography today in countries where never were any Jews, countries that strongly rejected Jewish ideas like monotheism and communism, for example Japan.

This is why pornography was unknown in Christian countries of old where only handful of Jews lived, for example 18th century France and Britain.

There was not an enormous amount of pornography in France and England as of the 18th century, even allowing for their lesser communications tech. There was a broad consensus that it was bad and should be suppressed. I say 'much less' not 'none'. Jews didn't invent prostitution, homosexuality or vice. At no point did I say that.

England has a rich history of state bans on pornography, here's some of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscene_Publications_Act_1857

France in the 18th century was a hotbed of censorship. They chucked de Sade in prison 32 times and he was a nobleman!

The Romans had the office of censor, ranked higher even than dictators. He was supposed to uphold public morality, ensure that there men and women were marrying, crack down on crassness like theatre actors and prostitution. Now none of these states totally succeeded in limiting the publication of pornography but they made a decent attempt.

countries that strongly rejected Jewish ideas like monotheism and communism, for example Japan.

Yes, there was very little pornography in Japan before the US came along and abolished their old censorship laws. Japan was also a very fertile country, albeit diminishing due to industrialization. Then a Jewish woman came along, demanded that women's rights got added to the Japanese constitution... Fertility falls 50% in 10 years.

It stands to reason that if there weren't any Jews, then there would be much less in the way of pornography

Or possibly "it would've been the next-best, next-luckiest" people to try to expand that market? If we compare the inventions of synthetic fertilizer, quantum mechanics, nuclear weapons, and vaccination to the invention of "if you offer women money some of them will do dirty stuff on camera", how on Earth do you conclude that the former insights were just ripe for the plucking while the latter was an improbable course that alt-history would have naturally avoided? People have been trying to figure out how to grow more food, make better weapons, and survive smallpox for millennia, with grossly more limited results, whereas all a pornographer has to figure out is how to combine "we have cameras now" with the World's Oldest Profession. I made fun of the "Deutsche physik" movement the other day, but at least they had "modern physics is really hard" as an excuse for failure. It's funny to even try to imagine how non-Jewish would-be pornographers could have failed. "We tried offering them turnips, we tried offering them badgers; nothing worked!"

When you discover something for the first time, that's a different process from choosing to implement it. Discovering something is value-neutral. Mass immigration (the Caucasians moving out for instance) is as old as time, as is pornography or prostitution. Censorship and border restrictions are also ancient 'technologies'. Choice is key here. States can choose to embrace censorship or libertinism, they can create people's republics or Democratic People's Republics.

Choosing is like a tug of war, where different factions compete to get their results.

As a concrete example, Jews made a huge contribution to the US Civil Rights movement. They founded the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, some 90% of civil rights lawyers in Mississippi were Jewish: https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jews-in-the-civil-rights-movement/

Now I don't know who invented the concept of all races being equal. It sounds early-Christian but I guess some Greek or Roman might've come up with it as well. Invention is separate from implementation. When it comes to implementing certain ideas, some groups favour certain sides.