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Culture War Roundup for the week of May 8, 2023

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If the guy was still flailing it’s reasonable to assume something bad would happen if he let go as well. I mean I think he was trying to keep the guy from attacking other people and until he’s not struggling I can at least understand why that might make penny think he’s just getting more pissed off.

When being strangled to death, continued flailing is more a sign of not being dead/unconscious yet than of still being a threat.

this is why defund the police is so stupid, even if you believe in social justice. Because vigilantism is possibly worse . the police are trained at dealing with these sorts of rowdy passengers.

the police are trained at dealing with these sorts of rowdy passengers

Are supposed to be trained.

They do get training; and that training, however far it may fall from perfection, does make a difference. I would bet that the 20th percentile policeman is better at restraining people like Neely than the 80th percentile vigilante, even assuming that both have the same equipment and the same amount of backup.

Yeah. This is comparing farmers to professional soldiers. The cop might have restrained 20 Neelys, the vigilante two.

This is part of why I think using force in self defense in response to verbal threats (if that's what happened) is really bad. If you make threats and someone starts trying to restrain you in a chokehold are you expected to de-escelate and hope they stop when you're unconscious because you recognize you're in the wrong for issuing threats?

I mean, if you're strangling someone to death, I think that they would flail about whether they're a 'good guy' or a 'bad guy'.

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