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Culture War Roundup for the week of April 10, 2023

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Open borders (those poor immigrants)

That is easiest to refute. Have you looked up how Poland and other European countries build walls to keep unwanted emigrants out?

Government was actually interested in keeping illegal emigrants out and was at least minimally competent so fence was build*. 186 kilometers, 400 million dollars. Construction permits, project paperwork, public investment assessment, legally required discussion, environment assessment, plan review and everything else got waived.

Illegal border crossings dropped drastically.

Poland has universal suffrage.

And it is not a fluke, Lithuania fortified border, Finland started wall construction recently from what I remember.

*unlike in case of Trump who is more interested in collecting donation to himself than in keeping illegal migrants out.

We can have a free, fair, open, educated society in which women and kids aren't threatened every time they walk a street or attend a school, or we can let women vote and participate in the workplace. But we cannot have both.

That is untrue. Poland has both, Ukraine had both before Russia started to bomb it, Czech Republic has both, Slovakia has both, Finland has both, Estonia has both, Lithuania has both... I can go on.

You get "Mean Girls" running a matriarchy - and NO matriarchy - EVER - has succeeded in all of history.

Really? Any? Ever? Really?

Have you looked up how Poland and other European countries build walls to keep unwanted emigrants out?

Makes a change from keeping wanted emigrants in...

Or is this a case of the problems of indexicals? https://youtube.com/watch?v=wX1x7pfH8fw

While I understand where you’re coming from, I will point out that America has something - a certain demographic issue - that none of the countries you named have pretty much any of. And that the exacerbation of that particular issue, which is one of the main reasons that 21st-century America cannot have nice things, is being sustained largely by women voters in this country today. And that the European countries which have spent the past decade importing that same issue - some of which are finally applying the brakes to that process, and some of which are still proceeding full steam ahead - have also done so in large part because of female political preferences.

Now, I’m not saying I necessarily favor the OP’s position. And I do appreciate you pointing out that there are at least some countries left where women are still somewhat based. (Once upon a time, not too long ago, even in America women were considered to vote more conservatively than men on a lot of issues, but a combination of factors has destroyed that forever.) Obviously I pray - not only as a straight man who would benefit immeasurably from a peaceful and happy resolution to the War of the Sexes, but also as a person who needs to live in this society - that women can be salvaged as a political presence and brought back into harmony and balance with men, and I’m perfectly fine if that doesn’t have to involve “repealing the 19th.” Still, I’m not as confident as you are that Polish women won’t catch the same mind virus that women in the rest of the industrialized world seem to have pretty much all succumbed to already.

Echoing Dag, speak plainly. Don't engage in "a certain demographic issue" weaseling here. Own your words, and if you aren't willing to come out and say "black people" or make the effort not to just be dunking on your racial outgroup, then your post is bad and unnecessary. (And you know perfectly well you're allowed to be a white nationalist here, you're just not allowed to spit on your enemies.)

Roger that, I was posting late at night right before bed and wasn’t exactly on my A game. Apologies.

What is this ‘certain demographic issue’ you’re darkly hinting at?

To be clear, I’m referring to having a large proportion of your population descended from the Third World. Shouldn’t have darkly hinted about it, but I figured it’d be obvious based on all of my other posts about the matter.

Ahh I've read a lot of your posts but didn't pick up on it. Interesting.

The fact that Poland supports NATO and Ukraine despite US foreign policy (pushing the gay globally) and Ukraine internal policy (electing drag dancing Zelensky) shows that there is a shift there.

They used not to accept refugees and they got in trouble with the EU for it, now they're taking in Ukrainians and theyre getting tighter and tighter with the EU and US.

There is little chance of Poland remaining Polish in these conditions.

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