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What's happening in this thread? I see two messages that are filtered [with an instruction to kick mod asses to fix it @naraburns (I don't know if this is your bag but yours was the first mod's name I found and I can't remember how zorba capitalises his name)] but this post that I'm replying to seems to be a pretty searing indictment of the motte and... yourself? It says ImpassionaTwo is replying to ImpassionaTwo. But I have no idea what you (or whoever you were actually talking to) said because it's filtered.
Hah, fun.
Alright, lemme start at the beginning! This explanation will be surprisingly meaty.
We had this issue a while back where removed or deleted comments would remove all children as well. This unfortunately meant that a poster could headshot a conversation if they deleted their initial post; it also meant that if a poster was awful, and got banned, and edited their post to flame the mods, and we removed it, we'd be headshotting the conversation ourselves. We had a few completely reasonable complaints about this and so we finally fixed it a few days ago (which was a surprising amount of work!)
One of the things the code does is that it suppresses the entire tree, but only if everything in that tree is hidden. So if there's just a new comment, it gets filtered, nobody ever knows about it until we hit the "approve" button, everything is good. And if there's a small reply tree that gets deleted, well, it all gets deleted, it's gone, everything is, again, good.
But if the whole tree isn't hidden, even though a root comment is - if we have the "the user deleted a root comment" issue - we need to put something in the comment slot just so it's understandable what happened. We've got a few ways posts can be "hidden". Two of those are the expected user-deleted-it and mods-removed-it options, and those have reasonably understandable text messages. But the last one is our new-user filter! We couldn't come up with any sensible way that we'd end up approving a comment as a reply to the new-user filter without approving the comment itself, so that's why the message says to go pester the mods, because it's probably a mistake.
In this case, we've got a three-post chain by Impassionatwo. The first two comments are . . . bad, but they're bad in a "ugh this technically doesn't violate any rules but this is not going anywhere good" sense. The third comment - the one that's visible - is also bad, but it's at least bad in a way where it's merely a bad post. So we ended up approving the third and just leaving the other two filtered for now . . . and honestly, I didn't even realize it was a reply chain until now.
So anyway, that's the basic answer; a major behavioral change and a situation we didn't expect to ever arise, which, of course, immediately happened.
I've got some tinkering to do, because if this happened once it's probably going to happen again.
Lol, of course. It looks like it stopped the trolling though, so one for the win column.
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This appears to an rdrama.net trolling attempt.
https://rdrama.net/post/161032/it-never-really-began-for-mottizen
https://rdrama.net/post/160855/mottizens-do-it-for-free-marseylaughpoundfist
https://rdrama.net/post/160880/impassionata2-has-informed-me-that-they
Since you'd have to actually click through and read the thread to see, I think it's worth asking: @ZorbaTHut are you aware that permabanned users still get to participate in janny duty? Should probably be fixed if you want this system to work the way I assume you intended.
Hah. Honestly it's not much of a big deal; the entire point of the system is that it has its own code for figuring out who's reliable, and contributions have absolutely no impact if it's decided you aren't reliable.
I guess that explains why a bunch of people showed up in the absolute bottom of the reliability table. It's honestly impressive how far down they got.
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Oh, and @Tyre_Inflator @magic9mushroom pings so you can see the above answer easily.
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I saw this because the quokka asked for help, and am happy you're as confused as me.
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@ZorbaTHut
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