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Wellness Wednesday for February 22, 2023

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I'm in my 40s. My LDL-c is rising despite an absurd effort on lifestyle diet/exercise stuff. It's now at about 130. I'm trying to convince my doctor to put me on statins to reduce it but he just reiterates lifestyle. He appears to be following guidelines. But what's the risk to lowering LDL-c anyway in spite of the guidelines? Trying to understand if he is resisting this outside of "if I deviate from guidelines and something bad happens I get sued and I'm not going to do research to figure out if it's worth it in your case".

What kind of guidelines are those? 130 is well outside of the reference interval, assuming you mean mg/dl. As far as I understand Statins are indicated for values above 85. Being more than 50% above that and still not recommending Statins sounds very strange.

I'm healthy and fit (BMI of ~23 and BF <15%) but I got put on statins when my LDL levels got 5.2/93.6.

Edit: Ignore this, I converted things wrong, see below.

Wow, what country do you live in? Do you have any specific risk factors?

I live in Sweden, no risk factors.

Edit: I used the wrong conversion table! Sorry!

My LDL when I got put on statins was 200 mg/dl, not 94.

The upper bound of the reference interval is about 180, not 130.

I don’t know enough about Statins to have a real opinion on it, but do you use fish oil? It reliably lowers triglycerides and seems to have a beneficial effect on cholesterol (it tends to raise hdl a lot more than ldl so even if you’re ldl rises the hdl to ldl ratios are improved https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements-fish-oil/art-20364810).

Also if you decide you just want it any way it’s really easy to get something like lipitoir prescribed, I have used this https://plushcare.com/lipitor-atorvastatin-prescription/ for ozempic so I don’t think you would have any trouble with a statin.