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No one on the left is really worried about David Duke or Nick Fuentes because they are the controlled opposition. The woke correctly identify them as woke-leftists in all but name. The enemy will always tell you who he is afraid and in this case who the woke left is afraid of is obvious. It's people like Rogan, Gabbard, DeSantis, and of course the unholiest of the unholy Trump.
Trump was president, what did he do to help conservatives/reactionaries?
Nick Fuentes literally went to tell him he has to stop whatever he's been doing since being elected and stick to what he was saying in 2016 but harder, as the situation has already considerably worsened.
What does controlled opposition even mean?
Is Ye (Kanye West) controlled opposition when his products get removed from the shelves and his media appearances cancelled?
Trumps efforts to disperse growth unquestionably helped conservatives and arguably bought the Republic a few years. Reactionaries like Fuentes opposed this because they didn't want to see the Republic maintained or restored. On this topic "Conservatives" and "Reactionaries" are not allies as much as they are blood enemies.
"Controlled" in this context refers to existing within and furthering the goals of the left-wing academic memeplex/GloboHomo Agenda/Davos Crowd/Cathedral or whatever you want to call them.
Kanye West is being attacked, and his media blacklisted because he is not controlled.
'disperse growth'? Economic growth?
If Fuentes is controlled then West is as well, since Fuentes works for him.
Fuentes would be his handler.
Fuentes' media is also blacklisted. He was reinstated on twitter 2 or 3 weeks ago and banned again the next day.
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Fuentes in particular seems to have been spun up to foil Turning Point USA, though I suspect that one is controlled opposition also.
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Realistically no one thinks they're going to leave mass grave either.
Because they are the controlled opposition.
Trump is very definitely not controlled, not by the DNC, not by some NWO thing, not even by himself.
My bad, I thought you were talking about Duke and Fuentes.
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What? Duke and Fuentes? The ADL describes fuentes as a "white supremacist leader, organizer and podcaster who seeks to forge a white nationalist alternative to the mainstream GOP". Wikipedia describes duke as "an American white supremacist, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, far-right politician, and former Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan". What are you talking about? Who on the 'woke left' identifies them as woke leftists in all but name? How?
Yes. Duke and Fuentes.
A pair of "far right" political figures who just happen to always seem to come down on the side of woke democrats when push comes to shove. The guys that Ryan long was making fun of in his infamous bit
Nick Fuentes believes in a genetic basis of IQ/intelligence that contributes to most of the racial IQ gap, and a total ban on immigration.
Wikipedia claims he has said "Who runs the media? Globalists. Time to kill the globalists" and "I want people that run CNN to be arrested and deported or hanged because this is deliberate.". He opposes feminism and LGBT, is a Christian who opposes atheism, believes in the importance of the "white demographic core" of the US, thinks jews have too much power in the US, and is a "holocaust denier". 'He has stated "You're either a Catholic or you're with the Jews"'.
He also opposes COVID vaccines. He often jokes about hitler.
How does he "happen to come down on the side of woke democrats when push comes to shove"?
The joke in your video is that the 'woke' and the 'racist' come to dumb conclusions on similar issues. Wokes want to hires more blacks, racists want to hire fewer blacks, so they're "both opposed to discrimation laws". A woke thinks 'white privilege' is bad (i.e. white people fundamentally hurt black people), a racist thinks it's a 'privilege to be white' (i.e. white people are better than black people). These aren't at all the same!
How does one come to believe this?
The difference is that while within the context of northern protestant Christianity the difference between a Lutheran and a Episcopalian might seem really important, from without it really isn't. From the perspective of a Catholic, Muslim, or Jew, Protestantism is Protestantism. Or in this case, a democrat who espouses id-pol infused socialism with a post modernist framing is a democrat who espouses id-pol infused socialism with a post modernist framing. I would contend that whatever animosity the people of hair-color might hold towards weirdly neotenous white nationalists largely comes down to the narcissism of small differences.
Like I said, the enemy will always show you who they are afraid of and they are very clearly not afraid of Fuentes.
They don't appear afraid of fuentes because he doesn't have nearly the power or support trump does. If fuentes won a presidential election, that'd change.
You didn't address any of the differences in views between fuentes and progressives? If you asked a progressive to list the political views or issues they cared the most about, fuentes would strongly disagree with them.
Whatever differences there are between progressives and Fuentes are irrelevant. Dude is not going to win an election unless he runs as a progressive and the progressive's know that. Hence the lack of fear, hence the claim that he is "controlled opposition"
Fuentes isn't winning elections whether he runs as a progressive or right-winger? Are you claiming he might run as a progressive?
This suggests that anyone who can't win elections is controlled opposition?? Which is bizzare. If I'm so extreme right or left I can't win elections due to unpopularity, that doesn't suddenly make me controlled opposition
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That's putting the cart before the horse though. You're assuming it's a small difference.
Both might engage in identity politics, but on opposite sides. Which is arguably more of a practical difference.
The woke left is a subset of identity politics. The white nationalist right is a subset of identity politics. But that gap is pretty severe.
Its more of a "real" Satanist (i.e. not atheists) vs Christian difference rather than 2 sects of Christianity. They both believe that God and Satan exist yes but their actions will be very different. If real Satanists commit acts the Devil likes as part of their practice it's likely that Christians and say Hindus would be closer to each other practically than either are to the devil worshippers even if the Christians and devil worshippers share the same cosmology and underpinning belief system, whereas the Christians and Hindus do not.
And my argument is that it's not. That democrats engaging in identity politics are democrats engaging in identity politics regardless of what side they claim to be on. Like I said, within within the context of northern protestant Christianity the difference between a Lutheran and a Episcopalian might seem really important, but from the perspective of a Catholic, Muslim, or Jew, Protestantism is Protestantism.
I maintain Satanist vs Christian is the better comparison, same underlying belief system very different conclusions and actions.
Whereas branches of Protestantism are going to act much the same at a macro level (If we count Quakers, perhaps excepted) , a white nationalist and a woke leftist are going to be pushing for very different worlds.
Thats why I am saying you put the cart before the horse, you claim its a minor difference but you're not actually making an argument to demonstrate that.
In 20 years an out and out white supremacist America, would look very different than an out and out woke leftist one. At a bare minimum which groups are favored by various policies would definitionally be different. The philosophical underpinning of identity politics may be the same, but WHICH identities they champion are very different.
That's not a tiny difference, its one that fundamentally changes what kind of world and government would be created.
I'll endorse that, with the emphasis that at the end of the day it is the same underlying belief system.
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty...
When Trump met with Nick Fuentes, the media hydra wasn't crying about the dangerous Trump subverting the innocent Hispanic young adult, was it?
Why be afraid of Fuentes anyway?
He's a 25 years old college drop-out.
Fans of the of the show like to tell themselves this but they are lying to themselves.
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Hlynka is a true believer - East German Christian Democrat. He thinks the Socialist Unity Party has corrupted the pure communism found in the writing of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (Martin Luther King), and that if they only stopped being so corrupt, exaggerating the capitalist threat to mask it's own corruption, and shooting people; we would suddenly live in a happy classless society. That violent repression, and permanent revolutionary rhetoric is necessary to avoid the collapse of the inherently dysfunctional communist (colour-blind) regime, escapes him. He will go to his grave claiming that the rare capitalists he stumbles accross are actually Stasi.
Do I get it right.. ... are you accusing Hlynka of being a right winger of the 'democrats are the real racists' school that is quite prevalent among right of center Americans ?
People who think racial disparities in achievement or criminality would disappear if blacks had the right culture / were properly motivated etc ? I don't think he is - he's far too online and clever for that, but it's a type that exist, and I've no idea what to do about them.
See this prior exchange.
https://www.themotte.org/post/328/smallscale-question-sunday-for-january-22/56816?context=8#context
As someone who dearly wishes he had an extra 25 IQ points so I could even hope to grasp advanced math (the parts invented after 1800), I had to mirthlessly chuckle about the claim of 'IQ' has nothing to do with ability to learn.
Smart people learn way faster - this was proven by e.g. US military when dealing with something as simple as tank gunnery, back in the day before computers did most of it.
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