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ymeskhout  1yr ago (text post)   Edited 1yr ago   2813 thread views

The Bailey Podcast E030: Indubitably, Porn

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In this episode, we discuss porn.

Participants: Yassine, Interversity, Neophos, Xantos.

Links:

E016: The Banality of Catgirls (The Bailey)

Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review with Clinical Reports (Behavioral Sciences)

How Pornography Can Ruin Your Sex Life (Mark Manson)

Does too much pornography numb us to sexual pleasure? (Aeon Magazine)

The great porn experiment (TEDx)

Hikikomori (Wikipedia)

The Effects Of Too Much Porn: "He's Just Not That Into Anyone" (The Last Psychiatrist)

Hard Core (The Atlantic)

Recorded 2022-12-18 | Uploaded 2023-01-12

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I can't think of any cases of people who were doing okay in life, and then went off the deep end into a superstimulus rabbit hole.

I've known and seen many of these people.

Superstimulus, in this story, is just bread and circuses for the broken-hearted. Things like porn and pizza are not existential threats. The existential threat is the mismatch between a technological society's requirements and human social and cognitive reality. This puts people in a position where porn and pizza really are their best option.

Looking at some failures around me it seems to that it's a bit of both. There is a mismatch between a person's self-perception, their actual ability and what they perceive to be an acceptable outcome of effort. There are good paths available, the person knows what they are but chooses not to pursue them. In essence narcissism and insufficient ability leading to an identity crisis and preventing them from growing up.

Instead of forcing themselves to reconcile this contradiction, grow up and become reasonably happy and productive adults, superstimuli offers a suboptimal out for some.

This shit is everywhere and the subject of much escapist fiction. It's hardly new either.

I haven't had a chance to listen to the podcast yet (but it downloaded fine for me too) so I hope this hasn't already been talked about, but expanding on what you said, "Never grow up" was practically the millennial slogan, pushed on them by their God, television. Unlike previous generations who grew up without fathers because they were too busy at work, both millenials' parents were trapped at work, leaving only screens to watch over and be watched - teaching lessons like 'everything always goes back to normal at the end of the adventure' and 'relationships without drama are doing it wrong' and 'the underdog is always right'. As a result it's a whole generation of narcissists, emotionally stunted and convinced both that everything is a story and that we are the protagonist.

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