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Could you link to the OP, or explain why popular rage at a federal authority would push a country towards even larger government?
I haven't read the post, but most people don't think "the reason this happened is because the government is too big!' - they think 'this happened because the people in charge are incompetent and/or evil!' So if you have engineered a decade long scenario where all the federal governments look monstrously evil and completely incompetent, you have ample time to position yourself as 'the adults in the room'. And in the midst of the widespread death and chaos, people will flock to your side regardless of what overbearing, invasive laws you propose just for a shot at a return to normalcy.
The continued incompetence of every government official everywhere makes me think this conspiracy is unlikely.
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I went looking for it, but haven't found it yet. I've seen the screenshot of the GLP post floating around, and my searches have been fruitless to find either the image or the post itself.
No worries and thanks for checking.
I found it: https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4920416/pg1
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I think it's more like "widespread collapse of national governments/depopulation allows the NWO to swoop in, pick up the pieces, and roll them up into a totalitarian globalist regime" -- not that this is particularly plausible, but that's the idea.
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