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Culture War Roundup for the week of December 19, 2022

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Why is "the Trans Question is an infohazard that is bound to damage the community in one or another if its discussion is allowed" not a sufficient justification for having a policy like that? If I were in charge of running a space like that, I'd impose the same rule, just for that reason.

The more interesting question, to me, is once again the exclusive focus on women. From what I've seen of various statistics, the number of FtM transitions and the number of MtF transitions is basically on the same order of magnitude everywhere; yet, if I looked at the internet, I would get the impression that "trans" is a category completely dominated by MtF. Do similar rules to the above exist in gay subreddits? Do gay subreddits need rules like that? The only context in which I've seen anyone complain about FtM transitions were claims of the type "our underage daughters will be brainwashed into mutilating themselves by social contagion", so, once again, concern for women. It seems that people on almost all sides of this debate are fundamentally in agreement that women are the only category that matters ethically and aesthetically.

It seems that people on almost all sides of this debate are fundamentally in agreement that women are the only category that matters ethically and aesthetically.

Men have agency with no inherent value and women have inherent value with no agency as the default assumption in society is not that spicy of a take. The 'F' on a driver's license entitles you to aid, scholarships, segregated spaces, special prizes, uneconomical programs to support you, general praise for even the most commonplace achievement, a benefit of the doubt, shorter criminal sentencing and much more; The 'M' on your driver's license entitles you to being forced to die in some god forsaken shithole and a lifetime of being held in suspicious or contempt. This is like asking why there is so much less security preventing Americans from going into Mexico than Mexicans going into America. And yes, gay guys are much much better at telling people they don't want to sleep with to pound sand, "No rice" is still incredibly common on gay male dating profiles.

I repeat myself, but generally, among the middle and upper classes in the West, women are the privileged group. They have access to provision, protection, and social concessions that men do not have access to and they are exempt from male duties. A man wanting to switch social categories is in dereliction of those duties and is seen as someone claiming privileges they are not entitled to. The reaction to MtF AND to FtM becomes quite understandable in that light. Nobody cares if a woman wants to live on hard mode.

Many worries about MtF are about males getting access to females spaces and overpowering them due to psychical power greater than woman have (sports have the least emotionally charged and the most objective case of that).

This does not apply to FtM.

Also how many FtM and MtF are there?

Also how many FtM and MtF are there?

FtMs outnumber MtFs 3:1. The mainstream doesn't talk about it because it raises too many uncomfortable questions and possibilities.

How many of those who pursue medical changes?

They don't seem to be that keen on sharing that data.

It seems that people on almost all sides of this debate are fundamentally in agreement that women are the only category that matters ethically and aesthetically.

The world starts making a lot more sense when you just accept traditional gender roles, and see nearly everyone denying them as engaging in an elaborate social ritual.

And it's not that men don't matter ethically, but there's the protectors, and the protected. What else do you expect to see in that case?

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