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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 28, 2022

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What's your age?

I suppose it was clear enough that it's not about sex, it's about companionship and more abstractly ones place in the status hierarchy. But I can only type so many words.

In real life, vulnerability

This is very unrelatable as a recent 25-year-old. And from what I hear from men all around these age groups. Men spanning the gamut of all the variables you described.

it’s not very hard to find a partner

Sure. If I lower my standards to the floor. If I want a girl who isn't fat, isn't stupid, and has some zest for life outside of Kpop and TikTok inside of her, or anything at all! Or is 0.75 times as physically attractive as me, the equation changes.

The standard red-pill take is that women seek to be hypergamous, meaning that they want to "marry up".

In a traditional society, women are forced to marry their equals. But in the modern society, where the heart knows what it wants, 50th percentile women pine over 95th percentile men.

Being men, these 95th percentile types are more than willing to bed (but not settle down with) 50th percentile women. This creates the illusion that these men are available. And once you've experienced the thrill of dimple-chinned Chad, why would you want to settle for soft-chested Sheldon? The fact remains that most women do eventually settle down with their equals, but are often unsatisfied emotionally and sexually, and resent their husbands for it.

From the male perspective, the solution is to better oneself so that women view you as a superior match. Failing that, marry a woman who is inexperienced enough to not know the difference.

I don't necessarily endorse all of this, but I think there is a lot of truth to this viewpoint.

In a traditional society, women are forced to marry their equals.

I come from a traditional society and I don't even mind that much (or even at all) that the woman I'll eventually end up marrying will probably be slightly beneath me.

Women everywhere are hypergamous. This is just a fact of life no different to the fact that we get hungry if we don't eat for a while and it is something that men need to just accept. No amount of contemporary complaining will change something so fundamental to the female human condition.

What's fucked up about the mindset of the western woman though is that she wants to marry someone better than her and then demands to be treated as an equal. For that I have no sincere response except jeering and mockery when it fails to work out.

Don’t the vast majority of people have a low single digit number of partners?

That includes people who are on Social Security. If you scope it to Millenials and younger, I think the average is around 10.

I think the dynamics are much different for zoomers. In every zoomer/ early 20's couple, I see the guy is more attractive than the girl. The stereotype of "hot girl ugly but funny guy" is flipped on its head with zoomers.

Also, aren't the stats indicative of something? More sexless/whateverless! men ? I understand its "still easy" if you meet certain criterion but what explanation do you have for the increased sexlessness?

I would expect this to diminish the effective sex drive of both sexes. Fat women and fat men might have to settle for each other because we're fresh out of fit, attractive people, but that may just result in them electing to opt out.

Sure. If I lower my standards to the floor. If I want a girl who isn't fat, isn't stupid, and has some zest for life outside of Kpop and TikTok inside of her, the equation changes.

There's also the question of the relationship lasting. I think it's fair to say that, statistically, marriages now have less staying power than in the past.

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