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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 5, 2022

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You're getting clowned by dramatards, just ban on sight if it smells fishy for a while.

I disagree, I may have immigrated from rdrama but my efforts are genuine.

I would even liken your stance to the equivalent of saying those people who just got off the boat don't sound like us, send them back to where they came from.

Give a chance to assimilation.

I disagree, I may have immigrated from rdrama but my efforts are genuine.

Who speaks like this? Firstly you know in your heart if you are trolling or not, you can just say "Yes/No I am trolling", its not a debate for you. Also you know if you are from drama or not, why are you saying you are "maybe from drama or not"?

Basically you sound like someone trying to play innocent.

Give a chance to assimilation.

Uhh no, read the rules.

You are expected to familiarize yourself with them, or lurk until you do.

As many others have said, even if you are posting bait, ultimately if it gets good conversation, some people might not mind having you post them around here.

So just make good posts if you are not trolling.

I may have come from means I come from. I believe that's a colloquial phrase?

I did familiarize myself with them, do you expect a baby to walk perfectly with its first step because you showed it a diagram and gif of how to walk?

last line acknowledged.

I mean it really makes no difference for me if someone follows the rules or not. I just gave you a heads up because the mods will inevitably ban someone if they don't do it a sufficient number of times. Actually I gave the mod a heads up because I browse rDrama myself and saw people talking about "invading" the motte.

For what its worth, the mods here are a lot more lenient than most mods on reddit, and maybe even in rDrama, I doubt many "edgy" places online have the stomach to discuss HBD and other topics discussed here on the regular without getting their panties in a knot. It's all fun and games until somebody gets hurt. I have been banned from multiple places that throw around the words 'retard' and 'faggot' with reckless abandon, when I actually brought up some juicy topics to talk about.

But anyways, don't let the down-votes discourage you, keep on posting, eventually you'll find a way to get your ideas across in a way that people here are receptive to.

Could you tell me what is HBD?

Thank you for the encouragement.

HBD is an acronym for 'Human biodiversity'.

It's the opposite of the blank slate theory. Proponents of HBD argue that the intelligence, personality, temperament, and a lot of other psychological/psychometric factors are genetically determined/influenced. Believing this leads you to a lot of inferences/conclusions that are very controversial to say out loud in polite society.

Of yeah I am a firm believer of human biodiversity.

The thing is that society is fully functional only at the level where it has evened out its diversity levels. We managed to do that at the national level then it stopped. One day we achieve enough intermixing at the continental level and it no longer matters again.

The group expands either by further intermixing of larger and larger groups or in a competitive state some groups simply dying out over time.

Believing this leads you to a lot of inferences/conclusions that are very controversial to say out loud in polite society.

It's only controversial as long as people do not understand that working out will make anybody seem more attractive and attractive people have the highest reproductive success rate.

It's only controversial as long as people do not understand that working out will make anybody seem more attractive and attractive people have the highest reproductive success rate.

Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

You might say that anyone who understands; genetic fitness (and markers for it like good looks), the basic mechanics of the biological evolutionary process, and selection effects; can connect the dots and reach a position where that more or less conforms to HBD.

But you'd be surprised. Just look at how much opposition there is to intelligence research because the research shows that some groups of people score lower on iq tests on average. Saying that out loud practically gets you and your bloodline cancelled.

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But it does matter if the OP is a troll. There are rules for a reason. No matter how many insightful, wholesome, galaxy-brain responses get made because of this bait, it’ll still be a turd on the doorstep.

I am not a troll. What would assure you of the same?

"Sir, this is a Wendy's Culture War thread"

Maybe next time post something about the Culture War?

I thought I did. My bad.

I do think opening your post with "crosspost from rdrama" should be an automatic bonk. We may be using their codebase, but that doesn't mean we need to accomodate their userbase.

Why? It was an effortpost on rdrama, why can I not reuse the effortpost?

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