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Culture War Roundup for the week of March 31, 2025

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terrifying precedent

I was terrified when the democrats stopped listening to the court system (ex: gun control), ignored violent protests (BLM) and engaged in unprecedented law fare against individual politicians and an entire voting block (ex: anti-BLM, J6).

This is just more of the same or better than all that.

Most of the stuff you mention is entirely orthogonal to ignoring the court system. Police getting deployed is a political decision, and the safeguard against politicians failing to stop violent protests is to vote them out of office. Law fare -- while problematic -- is explicitly using the court system.

If you have a story about someone who was imprisoned for a gun regulations charge, and the courts ordered their release and then the democrats said "haha" and kept them imprisoned indefinitely, please share it.

"Our protestors don't get charged with anything and your protestors are the recipients of an unprecedented manhunt" IS abuse of the court system. Who to charge and over charge is weaponization of the legal system.

The law fare against the NRA and Trump and so on is abuse of the court system.

The ignoring of SC rulings on gun control is abuse of the court system.

It is not the EXACT SAME abuse of the court system but demanding it be is missing the point.

Having no redress to those abuses - e.g., nobody has standing has to challenge or slow-rolling proceedings until the case is moot - is using the court system.

I'm definitely not saying that this is the first instance of the executive branch trying to circumvent due process requirements, or the worst instance. I don’t even think this is in the top 3 worst cases since the turn of the millenium (for those I'd say operation chokepoint, national security letters, and guantanamo bay, probably in that order of severity).

But each new bad precedent is in fact bad, and still the sort of thing I'd like to see less of rather than more of, and I'm sad when I see people on here who cared a lot about due process 2 years ago abandon that now.

Edit: On examination of the case, this the Trump admin defying the court, rather than the Trump admin finding a legal loophole that the court agrees with. So yeah, to your point, "executive branch does not listen to judicial branch" is obnoxious and worrying but I agree that this is less of a somethingburger than I originally thought on account of this AFAICT not actually setting any new legal precedents.

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