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PaperclipPerfector  3d ago (text post)   2428 thread views

Small-Scale Question Sunday for March 9, 2025

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The question is whether those things would 'infuriate anyone' and the answer is clearly not.

That is one answer. I think another answer can be that people think they aren't infuriated by those things but, in fact, are.

Would you say your argument is that there's a consensus on these points, even if a few people disagree?

I think another answer can be that people think they aren't infuriated by those things but, in fact, are.

What's the logic here? Are you arguing that people like @TitaniumButterfly are lying when they claim to not be infuriated? Is it some form of false consciousness that would be dispelled were these bullet points implemented locally?

I don’t understand what you mean by “consensus on these points”.

I don’t think TitaniumButterfly is lying; I think they do believe they’re not outraged. But I believe a dive into the logic behind why they believe so will reveal they, in fact, are.

I don’t understand what you mean by “consensus on these points”.

You listed a bunch of bullet points for specific policies. Your argument seems to be that most people, or possibly everyone, will converge on opposition to these policies were they actually implemented. When TB above argues that actually he supports your list of policies, your answer is that their belief that they support such policies is mistaken, and in fact they would oppose such policies, correct? And this is a general claim that least a supermajority of people actually do not really want these policies implemented, even if they currently mistakenly believe they do, correct?

But I believe a dive into the logic behind why they believe so will reveal they, in fact, are.

Would you care to do such a dive, at least for a hypothetical person if not for TB themselves? I think it would be interesting and useful to lay out the chain of logic as clearly as possible. The claim as I understand it seems pretty implausible, but if you're going to make it wouldn't it be useful to lay out why you believe it?

I think we are working from radically-different premises and should probably not share a government.

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