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I was not locked inside during Covid, I did not obey the lockdown orders, the majority of my neighbors did not obey the lockdown orders, I did not wear a mask and this behavior was common in my immediate surrounds. I still don’t believe Covid was that bad.
Correct, medicine is politically compromised. Too bad the branch covidians turned vaccines into culture war fodder.
Let’s be real, the normies can’t tell vaccines aren’t the same thing as gender affirming care or ‘abortion bans are literally killing people’. Because, you know, it’s not just one topic. It’s multiple topics, and evidence of public health lies in the past is everywhere- sodium intakes, for example. Not all of them are controversial issues. Hell, COVID’s not controversial anymore and doctors and public health establishment types are still repeating their lies from during the pandemic.
So you probably didn't see all the people who died, maybe because they weren't in your social group, maybe you lived away from inner city squalor for instance. It was bad, it really was.
COVID vaccine into culture war. I don't know a single republican, anti-woke, fuck the establishment doctor who has anything negative to say about non-COVID vaccines at all. These people do exist and one of the biggest eventually recanted but nobody takes them seriously.
It's like trying to get Toyota's banned because a BMW ran over your dog. Nothing about them is similar.
Medical research certainly has its problems but their is an immense world of difference in consideration between things like "get your fucking MMR shot" "here's a complicated discussion about the value of the Rotavirus vaccine" and "here's a retrospective study of complication rates using an N of 600,000.
As a sidebar their weren't a lot of lies during the pandemic, their was a lot of bad messaging. Things like "the fatality rate will go down overtime as the virus burns through the available tinder and mutates to be less deadly" were stated loudly and often but people didn't listen.
Stuff like the initial mask messaging was a lie and I was annoyed by it but it was well meaning.
Unforced errors sure but most of it wasn't lies and a lot of things are still true (yes it is dangerous), were found to be true (no Ivermectin didn't actually work the research that said it did had big flaws), or involve ongoing complicated debates (lab leak).
Fauci, along with the US Surgeon General, lied about the efficacy of masks to manage supply. Fauci also deliberately moved the goalposts on population percentage targets for herd immunity. Those weren't "bad messaging", they were deliberate falsehoods pushed out onto the public.
The initial don't wear masks this was absolutely a lie and with very good reason - lots of healthcare providers ended up dying due to lack of PPE.
But it was a lie.
The masks work bit is not a lie it's just complicated and still has a ton of debate today. That's picking and choosing which evidence base to use in public policy messaging.
Moving the goalposts on herd immunity is a political and not medical question and not really a lie no matter how well or ill advised it was.
No shit politicians lie (and Fauci is a doctor), but don't mix that up with the medical side of things.
The masks were sold out everywhere around me by early February, not sure what supply he was trying to save.
If you need to save it for healthcare providers say you need to save it for healthcare providers.
TBH, I think the more likely scenario, is he, like most of the contemporary research, believed that masks were not that effective against COVID and COVID like illnesses.
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