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Hep A and B are rare in the US among high SES whites, which I am.
Somewhat related anecdote:
We got a bill for like $1200 for our pre-natal blood screening, which included a Syphilis test. Then, when we came back for a later appointment they wanted to give my wife a second Syphilis test in case she banged some dudes and got Syphilis in the last 3 months. We said no to that one.
I get why they give infants Hep B vaccines. Because some small percent of moms will have it and pass it to their babies where it has a high chance of causing chronic disease. But my wife doesn't have any risk factors for Hep B and also tested negative to Hep B.
A lot of this medical advice is just targeting people who have risk factors which we don't.
And I don't believe vaccine risks are as low as they say they are. They tell parents to give their children annual Covid vaccines. Insanity.
Ultimately you don't know what you don't know - see the chickenpox party bit.
Also, the COVID vaccine is uniquely politically compromised but is a. not insanity, b. has an incentive we understand for the handwringing on both sides - political bullshit.
Vaccines in general have little incentive (as many are mature at this point it's not a money thing) to over push them or hide flaws. If you do the research on say the polio vaccine you can see exactly what went wrong in the past and why and the rationale behind the U.S. (and Danish) schedules. This stuff is out in the open and risks and benefits are known and the people who decide them are extremely competent and knowledgeable.
And the risks of the vaccines are minuscule (again with little incentive to lie or minimize them) and the benefits are immense, if rarely applicable for some things like Hepatitis A in the U.S..
Not following the schedule is essentially gambling with your child's life with the justification being "eh, the risk of this bad outcome is low but I won't take very easy steps to avoid it anyway because I'm mad about COVID."
You are welcome to be obstinate about the public health response to COVID but if you are putting other people at risk, especially your own children you should really look inside yourself and think about what you are doing.
That's putting aside the whole sentencing your child to a bunch of extremely avoidable paperwork and administrative headache in the future and the risk of things like ending up with a lower quality pediatrician because you refused to follow the vaccine schedule.
Importantly, if you are going to decide not to listen to medical advice and potentially put your child's life at risk you need to actually research what you are doing. Do not just jam it into an AI which you already admitted misled you or go "well shit this can't be right because COVID." Raising a child is one of the most important things someone should do and if you decide you will not listen to the medical consensus then you must actually put in time or effort or a reasonable person may judge you a poor parent.
Generally I don't get too heated with the questionable medical content that appears here because people aren't doing anything more than promulgating misinformation (which I'm committed to allow as a free speech person) and harming themselves - and people here do come up with novel things sometimes.
Putting a kid at risk and under baking your thought process is not that however.
Oh spare me. You're putting your kid at more risk every time you put them in a car then I would be by not vaccinating for Hep B.
If I was a conflict theorist, this sounds like what a anti-vaxxer would say to reverse-psychology someone into holding their viewpoint. This type of emotionally charged and accusatory language only works to make people do the opposite of what you say.
Don't worry, it's not going to change how I feel. But something to consider.
Yes and I'm aware of that risk and I think about it and I take steps to mitigate it when appropriate.
You are choosing risk for no reason. That's the issue.
Furthermore you need to be responsible. Engage with the rest of the comment. The ask is to actually do your homework instead of being mad about COVID.
That should be easy.
It's clear you didn't even read my initial posts or replies and just want to argue with an anti-vaxxer of which I am mostly certainly not. Then you said I'm a bad parent and put my children at risk. I believe this is when a southerner would say "bless your heart".
I mean, you said you didn't want to get some vaccines? And you said it was because
riskswhatever that means and because you don't trust experts?What is it you think that anti-vaxxers say?
That vaccines cause autism/autoimmune diseases, don’t work, etc. Typically not ‘the risks of vaccinating children against STDs outweigh the benefits’.
Hepatitis A is an STD in the same way Chickenpox is. Yes it can spread that way but that's not generally how it happens.
Just because Hep A is a Hep virus doesn't mean it is what you think it is. Chickenpox is a herpes virus.
....like come on man.
No you fucking come on man. In nearly every single post in this thread jeroboam has said he is not point blank refusing to vaccinate, he just doesn't see the value of giving his kids 45 vaccines when apparently 11 is fine elsewhere, and doesn't trust doctors because the medical establishment not only burnt its credibility during covid but refuses to own up to it, meaning they haven't learned a fucking thing from it. And then you come along treating him like a tinfoil hat wearing nutbar, blatantly ignoring what he writes in favour of arguments you have defeated before. And then when he brings up objections - my kid isn't at risk of getting hepatitis like an inner city orphan, the flu vaccine doesn't stop the flu, etc you go 'oh yeah but do it anyway' and then go right back to acting like a robot.
I mean ffs hydroacetylene reduced jeroboam's argument to ‘the risks of vaccinating children against STDs outweigh the benefits’ for brevity to explain how it differs from typical anti vax arguments and you mansplained chickenpox in response. You weren't even arguing with hydro.
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