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That this was always possible, that deporting criminal migrants is simply a matter of pushing a fucking button saying 'do your jobs like what you joined the ICE to do" is what infuriates this entire conversation about migration so much. Democrats instated a sense of fatalism (the migrants will come anyways so theres nothing we can do to stop them) and then crippled the ICE to stop even border deportations, much less deportations in the interior, because there was no point anyways. Then the Democrats expanded asylum to include feeling sad, so every fucking border trekker was saying the same thing about gangs. Only after that was in place, where aspiring migrants see a big sign above the USA saying 'come over we wont stop you and we will stop ourselves from stopping you', did the Democrats turn around and say 'yup this is our reality now diversity is such our strength isnt it look at the fruit pickers and ignore the literal cartels claiming asylum'.
That Trump comes in and in less than a week starts deporting criminals that have decidedly negative expected value to the US population just makes the Democrat failure that much worse. If Trump can strike a deal where Bukele or Meliei accept unrepatriable US illegals for cash and then leaves the illegals to the tender mercies of those 2 leaders, the Democrats will be lost in the political wilderness for at least 3 cycles.
El Salvador and Argentina are active examples of "just do the thing" and so far it has turned out really well for both, esp. compared to their status quo before.
I wouldn't have quite believed it before, that the whole "violent crime is a nuanced problem that you can't fix in one fell swoop with blunt instruments" mentality was just an excuse, or worse a piece of propaganda to psychologically block actual solutions.
Nope. Just arrest the known violent elements of your society and stick them in a cage.
My most charitable take on the liberals was that they were just trying to delicately thread the needle with a technocratic, data-informed approach that solved certain problems while minimizing second order impacts and collateral damage and ensuring the solution stuck for the long term.
They failed, obviously, but this at least grants that they wanted to solve the problem.
Otherwise, the continuing refusal to pick up and use the obvious solution looks intentional.
What happens when your data goes against foundational principles of your guiding vision? Thats where liberals fail. Using data we can better ensure that blacks are not actively or passively discriminated against in employment, education and law enforcement availability, thus bringing their achievements back up.
Well, turns out that all the free grade 1-12 tuition for URM (another phrase tortured into existence to exclude Asians) doesn't work if they don'y show up at all. DEI hiring initiatives to hire more black candidates of equal capability to white ones don't work when the black candidates simply don't exist. Restorative justice and sentencing reform doesn't work when blacks fundamentally commit more crime to begin with.
Same thing with homelessness and drug addiction and crime. Housing first won't work if the bottom 3% of permanent homeless trash all housing offered continually and just act as violent nutcases to drive out neighbors. Harm reduction does not lead junkies into care services just because they feel 'loved and seen'. Restorative justice (again) doesn't work when the light sentences just keep criminals on the street to reoffend endlessly.
Technocrats adjust their principles to fit the reality of data. Liberals pretending to be technocrats adjust data to fit their preferred reality. Scratch a liberal and a p-hacker appears. The continuation of such p-hacking despite repeated failures is what convinces me that liberals are captured: they hate the reality that creates this data outcome in the first place and actively strive to destroy the obstacles to their preferred reality. If blacks can't be assed to go into special ed programs, then just get rid of them entirely.
Edit: get rid of the special program, I mean.
Slight disagreement on the technocratic point, I think. The liberals who are technocrats might think "Well the data isn't where we want it to be, but through a combination of social policy, technology, and spending tons of money for years or decades... we can change the data!"
If the temperature in the house is too high or low, you can adjust the thermostat. Problem is for social problems with 100 variables and chaotic systems, you can't easily map the inputs to the expected outputs. So you adjust society's thermostat and one room of the house catches on fire and water starts flowing out of the upstairs toilet and the kitchen lights start blinking various racial slurs in morse code.
Yup. But perhaps they can thread a needle that prevents having to admit that homelessness is intractable if we aren't willing to jail or institutionalize people, and instead spend money on a delicate balance of programs and housing initiatives and somehow fix everything without having to admit that those dirty rightwingers have a point!
Meanwhile, as we've seen: the rightwinger just does the thing that solves the problem, and then moves on to the next thing.
One thing liberals are very good at is definitional warfare and data abuse. Redefine genocide to include cultural appropriation, racism to include every instance of disparate outcome by subconscious bigotry, poverty to include not having an apartment in a T1 city. Include low-crime Nigerians Chinese and Indians in the denominator of 'migrants' to make it seem like deporting Salvadoreans and Guatamalans is increasing the net crime rate of USA, include sexting into the definition of child sexual abuse so that White British remain the greatest numerator of child sexual abuse perpetuators so as to hide the dominance of Pakistanis committing group anal rape, exclude Asians and now Latinos from the definition of Minority to keep claiming that systemic racism is still a Thing.
By changing the presentation of reality the liberals keep justifying why even MORE help must be given for their interpretation, as opposed to what you see with your own lying eyes. To trust your own eyes, your own judgment, your own experience, is to deny the reality imposed by your intellectual betters.
There has been a new reality based adjustment away from liberal orthodoxies. Definitional warfare and rights lawfare need to hold the tough men with guns back from exercising their own agency. Turns out your fancy human rights law paper means nothing if your enforcement authorities decide to deport first and ask never.
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