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PaperclipPerfector  6d ago (text post)   2020 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for January 24, 2025

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What is with this recent tendency of people treating technological artifacts of one or another outgroup - especially ones that present some simulacrum of agency - as stand-ins for members of that outgroup which are finally at their mercy? At this point more than half of the usage examples I have seen of DeepSeek-R1 seemed to be attempts to elicit "forbidden thoughts" about Chinese politics, or more specifically written in such a way that suggests the prompter was imagining themselves as having tied up a Chinese nationalist on a chair in their basement and trying to make him squirm. There's a gleeful mean-spiritedness about them (comfort women ERP?) that is hard to explain otherwise.

Of course, 4chan's dogged attempts to coax American models into producing sex and racism already had similar vibes, but there is an even more similar example in the recent wave of video game modding, where users edit character models to have balloon tits and ugly fetish outfits and share their work with a righteous anger that makes it seem like they have just successfully ruined the days of their personal nemeses at Sony's censorship department. (But then, human nature is such that at least some of those censors then go on to suggest on Xwitter that their days are in fact ruined by this.)

“Recent”?

Anyway, consider the possibility that Twitter is overstating the prevalence of AI torture-porn for the usual engagement reasons.

It's a new model that is known to be Chinese rather than Western, it's only natural that people who know of Chinese censorship (and even more so the people who know of both Chinese and Western censorships) are going to want to test it.

What is with this recent tendency of people treating technological artifacts of one or another outgroup - especially ones that present some simulacrum of agency - as stand-ins for members of that outgroup which are finally at their mercy? At this point more than half of the usage examples I have seen of DeepSeek-R1 seemed to be attempts to elicit "forbidden thoughts" about Chinese politics, or more specifically written in such a way that suggests the prompter was imagining themselves as having tied up a Chinese nationalist on a chair in their basement and trying to make him squirm. There's a gleeful mean-spiritedness about them (comfort women ERP?) that is hard to explain otherwise.

Isn't that this forum's whole shtick? You walk into the arena and let your worldview be attacked by determined opponents looking for reasoning errors. Since most ideologies are no longer willing to send their representatives to the modern equivalent of a theological debate, their "thinking machine" artifacts are their best stand-ins.

Americans are trying to cope with Deepseek by pointing out "it's censoring lmao" etc.

I find the humor it can produce if used through API to be mirthful. I'm not particularly fond of Chinese, but they are far less insidious re: propaganda than Americans. Not very good at it either.

ls into producing sex and racism already had similar vibes

Do you have anything against horny zoomers doing ERP with state of the art or just beyond LLMs ?

There's a gleeful mean-spiritedness about them (comfort women ERP?) that is hard to explain otherwise.

That's just someone with a raceplay kink.. Don't get it but it's pretty cute when aimed at whites.

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