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Wellness Wednesday for January 22, 2025

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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Do you stop eating once sated? The really fat people I've known don't necessarily eat giant portions, they just eat all the time here and there. And eating even when full is something I've heard people do. I've never had that problem.

When I say "full" I don't mean "I feel good with this amount, I'm gonna stop now". I mean full like you've just had a huge meal and you don't feel like you can physically fit more in your stomach. In the former state, I can eat more if I want (though I am trying to get better at not continuing past that point). With the latter, I'm so full that the thought of eating more makes me feel a bit sick. But instead of being there after having a huge meal, I'm there after having a medium-large size meal.

Unfortunately, my primary problem is an addiction to sweets and they are really calorie dense. So by the time I filled up on those it would still be way too much. But it definitely has an impact on my normal meal times.

Are you physically active? This is probably out of scope, but as an (amateur) runner, I've definitely hit high training volume periods where fullness and satiety decouple and I've finished meals stuffed but still hungry for calories (past a certain point, there is the effort of effectively planning an extra meal every day, but that isn't often for me). It seems plausible to me that some people get used to the wrong signals (full stomach vs. satiety), especially for hyper palatable foods, but I'm hardly an expert.

I was very physically active until my son was born 6 months ago. But fullness and satiety have been decoupled for me for as long as I can remember. My stomach feels quite full quite quickly, but I still feel strong cravings.

Congrats, man! You're probably also missing a lot of sleep. Don't beat yourself up too much: balancing it all at that stage is hard.

Thanks, I don't beat myself up too much; I just want to get slimmer.

Unfortunately, my primary problem is an addiction to sweets and they are really calorie dense. So by the time I filled up on those it would still be way too much. But it definitely has an impact on my normal meal times.

Sweets were the first thing I've eliminated from my regular diet. I used to finish every meal with some cookies and a piece of chocolate. Now I eat half a protein bar instead, which has 9g of protein, 4,25g of fat and 1,15g of carbs and still tastes like a candy bar to convince my brain that I've had dessert.

A lot of regular sweets taste too sweet to me now.

When I first came to Japan I'd eat a cookie or something and think "What? Where's the fucking sugar?" Now, these days, 20 something years on, I do taste the sweet in Japanese snacks (usually, still not in wagashi which in my mind should not be termed a sweet), but when I go back to the US, and have, as I did a few times ago, some peanut butter chocolate doughnut at Krispy Kreme, I feel as if I am about to go into a diabetic coma. And my friend had two! My point is you can wean yourself off really sweet stuff. I used to love it and now I have far less of a tolerance.

I have heard similar results from others. My aunt went through a phase where she halved the sugar of every recipe she made, and she said that after an initial adjustment period (which was rough) it tasted normal.

And yeah I'm not saying that I have given up because semaglutide doesn't help with my cravings. Quite the opposite - I'm trying very hard. My wife just lost her brother to alcoholism and I'm really trying to not be the next family member she loses to poor lifestyle. But for better or for worse, chemicals aren't helping so I'm trying to work on it through good old-fashioned discipline.