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I wrote a top level post earlier this week about- well, I don’t know that it was about this, but it was adjacent- white people not minding Mexican neighbors. People are fine with it.
Race issues, intractable ones, in the US seem specific to blacks, and perhaps specific to AADOS blacks, vs everyone else. Yes subcontinentals are widely disliked elsewhere in the Anglosphere but we don’t have enough of them for it to be a big issue here.
I suspect that if we imported unselected Arabs or whatever, then there would be serious race issues between them and everyone else. But we don’t have those either. American ‘race issues’ are code for ‘blacks and non-blacks not getting along’.
I’m not sure it’s strictly a race issue. Arabs are mostly Muslims and Islam has a whole host of really bad ideas embedded in the religion. Even if we don’t allow random Arabs in, conversion is a problem as well because the religion is predicated upon Islam supremacy and imposition of Islamic laws and social structures on any society it encounters. They wouldn’t just impose a Mosque of England and you could live perfectly comfortably practicing your own religion without fear or having to follow the rules. Islam simply cannot accept other beliefs as equal to their own.
Mexicans are okay people, and generally seem to be taking up labor jobs, which I think is why Trump did so well among black men who might be competing for those labor jobs. Whites don’t care so much unless they’re in the trades because they aren’t around them as much.
It seems like Sunni Shiite and Christian Arabs are three different ethnic groups; Christian Arabs make good immigrants and the other two don't. To what extent this is driven by ethnicity/culture vs religion is an open question. I certainly think religion plays a role.
Considering that the main difference between Sunni and Shiites one one hand and Christians on the other is religion, I’m not seeing much of an open question here.
Almost none of these people are converts, and their parents weren’t either. A significant plurality of Arab Christians don’t have grandparents who speak Arabic(they spoke Aramaic instead), the consanguinity rates are much lower, these populations are basically different castes in the same country.
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Depends on the type of Mexican. There's a neighborhood about 5 minutes away from me that no white person would willingly live in and it is all Mexicans. It is an incredibly unsafe neighborhood. I think all the white people who used to live there didn't like them very much as neighbors. And of course, Trump ran on mass deportations. Who do you think those people were understood by everyone to be?
Centracos and Haitians?
So you think conservatives and MAGA are cool with the millions of illegal immigrants from Mexico that currently live in the US? Are they getting a pass because Americans like them as neighbors so much? When they ask for papers and start deporting, Mexicans are going to be spared because they are such great neighbors to MAGA people in Texas?
There will not be mass deportations. I’m pretty confident in that. And I’m also pretty confident that if all the illegals had been Mexicans(most aren’t these days), immigration would not be a top political issue.
How old are you? Because people on the right (and some on the left) have been talking about deporting illegal Mexicans my whole life. This is such a ridiculous argument you are making if you are not in your early twenties.
Who do you think this was targeting 30 years ago in California: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_California_Proposition_187
You're just flat out wrong if you are "confident that if all the illegals had been Mexicans(most aren’t these days), immigration would not be a top political issue." It has been a top political issue for decades, and during most of that time period, the majority were Mexicans. And they are still a plurality of the migrants anyway.
Imagine this scenario: Tomorrow, 100% of the illegal immigrants in the US are Mexican. Is it no longer an issue? MAGA and conservatives now support open borders? Or do you think they will want those illegals deported?
Editing this just to add one more point. Trump literally made illegal immigration from Mexico in 2015 one of his biggest campaign issues. His infamous “not sending their best” speech was clearly about Mexican illegals. This isn’t even debatable.
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Central Americans? Asians? Mexicans are no longer the majority of illegal immigrants.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/
The number of unauthorized immigrants from Mexico dropped to 4.0 million in 2022 from a peak of 6.9 million in 2007. Mexico has long been, and remains, the most common country of birth for unauthorized immigrants.
It's the most common in the sense that it's the single biggest, but it accounts for about a third of illegal immigrants. The lion's share are not Mexicans.
I would argue most people probably think the majority are Mexican. They probably just assume most Central Americans are just Mexicans. But even if somehow the average person knows the updated numbers (they don't), it is understood that millions of Mexicans will be deported.
I'm not even sure what you are arguing. Do you not think the average MAGA person who wants mass deportations of illegals doesn't want the millions of illegal Mexicans in the US deported along with all other illegal migrants? It is understood by anyone who supports this policy that Mexicans will be one of the top groups deported (and they are correct, by the very source you cited). And these same people have wanted these people deported for 50 years, so the changing demographics of where they come from is irrelevant. Deporting illegal Mexicans has been something they always wanted!
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