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That's really not the reason, it's the massacre of patrilineal groups through the ages. The vast majority of men reproduced. But if it was true, I guess we'd all be Ken's sons while women would be descended from hags, so we'd win the intersexual beauty contest easy (but who would be the judges?).
You seem to be saying most men are so ugly we need to force women to date them, which is funny, and a little insulting. Those poor women lol. I’d be merciful and let her choose celibacy if it came to that.
ugly does not equal unattractive, besides mass massacres, we have seen the effects of hypergamy in front of our own guys. A man's attractiveness is mostly his status and then his attributes, you simply both directly and indirectly and women are way better than guys at picking this stuff up. A society where anyone can have sex with anyone will lead to even more skewed outcomes where geroge clooney bangs 1000s whilst many FAANG engineers end up surfing looksmaxx.org, incorrectly thinking that they are going to succeed if they fix their looks.
I am basing this on my own personal experience as a guy who has surfed these forums but also cold approached a few hundred girls, cold approached not slept with. The average guy is more fun to hangout with but genders rate attractiveness differently innately.
Any Faang engineer can get married, given effort and low standards. Actually, that goes for almost anyone.
The Redpill view of attractiveness is imo very confused. Let’s say that women only cared about status, and men about looks. That still leaves two hierarchies of people with corresponding attractiveness, and nothing fundamentally different in the attractiveness model of the sexes. You say women can sense men’s status, but men can rank women on looks just as easily. And men all prefer a better-looking girlfriend, does that make them hypergamous? If half the men are too low status to be attractive, then half the women are too ugly to be attractive.
The main difference you identify is that most men would accept an offer of casual sex from most women anytime, while women only accept the offer from george clooney sometimes. This says more about the sexes relative enjoyment of casual sex than attractiveness.
I think desire for marriage is a lot more balanced between the sexes. You brought up that indian ‘divorce rape’ case (btw, I know the manosphere uses it, but it’s a terrible name. It comes off as a cheap attempt to ‘equalize’(‘you rape us we rape you’ – but of course most men don’t rape anyone so they don’t deserve this ‘retaliation’, plus rape is illegal, while this uses the legal system to fuck men over, so it’s more like the opposite, etc), and on that subject we agree.
Which leads to my question: let’s say promoting female chastity really does increase marriages … Why do men want the kind of headache that lead to that guy’s suicide anyway? I suggest that before we think of stopping our female overlords from fucking george Clooney, we stop giving them the legal right to steal all their husbands money and send them to prison.
No because we have data on this from not just dating apps but also the fact that more women get sex than men, the curves voth genders are skewed.
Good question, like most things, people on the right dont have good answers besides a retvrn to the past. Most guys will have some sort of an issue if they find out about thier mothers having a past of promiscuity though I do think marriages would be better because then women who act badly will be left without options. This has some issues as men have abused women and I dont want them to get abused again by the same deadbeat husband. Unless you are the kinda reactionary who believes that women are property, there are very remeides and I certainly would want to know about them. Me being against female promiscuity is the mildest thing I can say that will not fall in tht camp since I am still not experienced enough with women.
I have been thinking of writing about human mating dynamics on the culture war thread for a while now, will tag you once I get it out.
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