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Does victim selection play a role in the perceived public response?
Frequently the difference is women out on her run attacked at random opportunity vs liquored or drugged up good time girl who changes her mind or realizes too late the sort of rake she's followed to his room.
While recognizing this distinction is often seen a victim blaming, victims are often careless with their own safety.
I am willing and able to decouple in my head "it was despicable of that man to take advantage of you when you were in that state" from "it was careless of you to get drunk and go home with such an obviously shitty person", and I think this is a skill that everyone should master.
Many people decouple this way.
Do you also decouple when instead of being the victim of another person, they're the victim of an animal, tree, swimming pool, trampoline or hotel balcony?
Being drunk or drugged in an unsafe environment is inviting unnecessary risk in a way that getting your steps in on a local walking path should not. Should the culture not recognize this difference and treat the individuals in these situations differently as a result?
Of course, I am markedly more sympathetic to a victim who was entirely blameless versus partially a victim of their own carelessness. A person who gets mugged on a busy street in broad daylight surrounded by witnesses vs. a person who meets a crypto scammer on a dating app and voluntarily sends him €7k - both have been stolen from, but the latter is partially a victim of their own greed and lack of forethought.
But the thing is, even if the algorithm by which to apportion sympathy that you're describing is an appropriate one, it isn't the algorithm any of the people under discussion are using. It's not like the far-right are thinking "Ashling Murphy was just minding her own business so I'm outraged, whereas Nikita Hand got drunk at a party and brought it on herself". And it's not like woke people are thinking "Nikita Hand was brutally raped by a man she trusted, whereas Ashling Murphy should have known better than to go for a run by herself in an isolated location with no witnesses". Both groups are just thinking "(Ashling Murphy)/(Nikita Hand) was assaulted by a member of my outgroup, so I'm furious; (Ashling Murphy)/(Nikita Hand) was assaulted by a member of my in-group, so I'm going to look the other way and downplay it" (delete as appropriate). This is plainly demonstrated by the fact that Conor McGregor's admirers turn a blind eye to all the other horrible things he's done, in which the "you got too drunk and brought this on yourself" defense clearly doesn't apply e.g. assaulting a middle-aged man because he refused a glass of whiskey he was offered.
I think this is uncharitable. I don't claim to know their minds but I suspect at least some would apply this algorithm. Also I believe the
distinction is a natural cultural tradition, on par with many situations that result in adverse outcomes that can be described as 'natural consequences' or 'mess around and find out'. People holding to this tradition may not apply the algorithm knowingly but it's baked into their tradition and culture.
Isn't this a common framing that is labeled as victim blaming?
I'll agree here, this isn't a framing I've frequently seen or encountered.
I'll disagree slightly here, knowing when to accept the drink you don't want to save the interlocuteur a loss of face is a useful life skill as is not being unnecessarily antagonist in your refusal to partake.
There are lots of places
might get you hit.
I don't mean any of this as support for Connor McGregor or his fans. From the reporting he seems unpleasant. It's not a sport I follow. Nor do I believe this sort of behavior or outcome is extraordinary. The press routinely reports on the poor behavior and alleged crimes of many high profile individuals, professional athletes especially.
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This is an excellent and rarely integrated point in these discussions.
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