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PaperclipPerfector  1d ago (text post)   1223 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for November 15, 2024

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The people making this meme don’t think he’s “slightly less hawkish.” They think he’s outright sympathetic to Putin and will explicitly, not just effectively, lead to Ukrainian defeat. Hence side-switching and not, I dunno, kicked for griefing.

Also, I don’t think anyone says he’s “literally in bed with dictators.”

The people making this meme don’t think he’s “slightly less hawkish.”

That was an injection of my own thoughts, I can see how it could be confusing. I was simply trying to gesture at Trump's differences of opinion on foreign policy from the mainstream.

Also, I don’t think anyone says he’s “literally in bed with dictators.”

Sigh. Here we go again.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2024-11-06/trump-is-back-and-out-for-blood-his-opponents-need-to-build-a-structure-to-defend-america

On national security, he’ll sell out Ukraine and get in bed with dictators, most prominently Russian President Vladimir Putin. A liaison with Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán isn't out of the question either.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/

The Republican nominee’s preoccupation with dictators, and his disdain for the American military, is deepening.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/opinions/trump-dictators-putin-xi-erdogan-ben-ghiat/index.html

Trump continually praises dictators and who he is trying to reach with this kind of talk. Some of it is no doubt Trump airing his fantasies of the kind of authority he could exert as president. He praises Hitler, Chinese leader Xi, Russian President Putin and others because of their absolute power, not in spite of it. He repeats these leaders’ cult of personality propaganda in presenting them as so strong and feared that it is useless to resist them.

From the Kamala Harris compaign:

https://www.facebook.com/KamalaHarris/videos/harris-vs-trump-harris-walz-2024/1092590845847573/

Donald Trump admires dictators—and he wants to be one on day one if given the chance.

Also, from the first Trump administration, who could forget SNL making a joke about Putin fucking Trump:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/snls-homophobic-trump-putin-jokes-need-to-stop/

"Honey, why you still up?” Bennett’s Putin says, emerging from a hotel room door bare-chested with a randy, horny smirk. He seductively pats the small of Baldwin’s Trump’s back. “Come back to bed, babe!"

Maybe "admires dictators" is different, but at least one of those pieces expliclitly said "in bed with dictators," and the implication was all over the past year of the campaign -- let alone the first Trump presidency.

Perhaps I made some mistakes in my presentation, but I was simply trying to provide my best understanding of the meme in terms that people who disagree with it might be able to understand. I would not have posted, particularly in the friday fun thread, if I thought I were going to create a debate over all this. It's a silly polandball meme.

For what it's worth, I thought it was an excellent meme, quite amusing, and certainly fit for a fun thread.

I didn't post the meme originally, but several people had just expressed they didn't understand it and I was just trying to be helpful.

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