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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 11, 2024

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I count 32 doses recommended to all children

how many of these doses include multiple vaccines?

to be frank, it's asinine to claim someone "wrong" if they believe MMR is 3 vaccines instead of one

not counting a yearly flu vaccine and one dose of a covid vaccine.

why wouldn't you count these?

"hundreds" is wrong, but so is "32" even if we accept 1 dose=1 vaccine which is hardly some sort of objective fact

Sure, we can break down dtap and mmr into three vaccinations. That brings the total to 48. Still a far cry from hundreds, so I don't see what's asinine about saying that hundreds is wrong. There's just no way you can torture the numbers to get to hundreds.

why wouldn't you count these?

Simply because in my experience most kids don't get these on a regular basis.

Simply because in my experience most kids don't get these on a regular basis.

they're on the schedule

hundreds is wrong, but so is 32

the number of vaccines on the CDC schedule for a child born today through age 18 is ~80

How is it 80? 48 I counted above, plus 18 flu, plus 2 covid makes 68.

boosters and multi year shots and "ask your doctor about RSV" means, in practicality, you should get the RSV "vaccine"

What boosters and multi year shots? I counted the boosters. Seriously, show your math, because I am pretty sure you are hiding the ball.

and "ask your doctor about RSV" means, in practicality, you should get the RSV "vaccine"

RSV vaccine is not recommended for all children. If we're going to stick to what's recommended on the schedule, let's stick to the schedule.

I care to bicker about a number if it's the difference between 32 and 68 or 80. I don't care between 68 or 80. I sincerely doubt any person has some marginal number between those 2 figures which significantly changes their opinion. Use whatever number between those you feel like.

But since you asked, babies are recommended to get 2 influenza shots in the first 12 months of life, so the number is 20 and not 18. If we're counting the combos, MMR & DTaP would count for 24 and not 18 (8 total doses of these shots). HPV is 2 or 3 doses. When I count, I get 72 or 73 not including the RSV.

the "around 80" comes from boosters (teal), RSV, and "some children" recommendations like dbl flushots per year for very young children which I believe to be routinely recommended for those following the schedule and my experience with young children going through this process at multiple median pediatric practices in different states

babies are recommended to get 2 influenza shots in the first 12 months of life, so the number is 20 and not 18.

The standard recommendation is one shot in the first year of life.

If we're counting the combos, MMR & DTaP would count for 24 and not 18 (8 total doses of these shots).

Yes, 24 is the number I used after breaking down the vaccine cocktails.

HPV is 2 or 3 doses.

HPV is one or two doses.

When I count, I get 72 or 73 not including the RSV.

You are still hiding the ball, because you've counted 47 with some fudging and there's only 24 other recommended shots on the schedule. Even with these inflated numbers you only get 71. "A hundred dollars? What do you need fifty dollars for?"

boosters (teal),

Boosters are not teal, teal shots are not recommended for all children.

HPV is one or two doses.

Okay, let's go to the website you read because you're engaging in good faith after you've linked it 10x.

I think we've spotted the disagreements and I doubt hashing out whether it's proper to refer to "some children" extra shots as "boosters" or whether it's an "inflated number" to include 20 shots from the schedule you asterisked out or whether to include a shot on the 18th birthday to get between 71, 72, or 73 shots will either be interesting or productive.

thanks for the dialogue

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