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I first noticed Indians about 15 years ago. Every single one I worked with was an H1B that almost certainly lied to get the job. In fact, I have never had a satisfactory experience working with an Indian in any position. I keep running into the same failure pattern where it's like they simply don't understand language, they just make convincing mouth sounds to get people to leave them alone. I've never successfully communicated a technical problem to an Indian in a way they've understood, no matter how hard I try. Other colleagues understand what I'm trying to communicate immediately.
My entire region was over ran by them. They all drove Honda Odysseys and basically didn't follow any traffic laws what so ever. At some point my then girlfriend, now wife with a confusing ethnic sounding last name got an interview at an American company that had been completely taken over by Indians. She was told point blank that they weren't going to hire her because she was white and they only hire other Indians. To this day she carries a grudge against Indians for being so nakedly discriminated against.
Later when she was venting to her father about the incident, he asked which company, and recognized the name. Said they were notorious for just blatantly lying on every contract bid they made, and basically doing no competent work what so ever.
I wouldn't say I'm shocked if people notice misbehavior that blatant and stereotypical.
Classic lol, it happens here too, I just dont say stuff like this out loud as I dont know how others here would percieve it, dont wanna get doxxed
I saw people not interweaving between lanes for the first time in my life when I travelled outside the country, you cannot drive here at all, zero laws are followed.
Elaborate on this, you think they dont get english or the language you work in, btw indian scams for migration primarily happen in like 4 states, so 3 in the south and then sikhs from punjab, they make up 90 percent plus of all h1b and it aint because they are smart. Nepotism runs deep.
Shit like this is why I can't defend them anywhere, in my own home nation you get nationalised bioleninism and in the US you get ethnic nepotism where people call the host nation, its people and its culture names but refuse to ever return back to their homeland. Mass migration in any capacity is morally wrong. Brampton, the place where you see the highest density of subcon people is unlivable.
You have an industry where people buy h1bs by paying another firm to get it from them, its a pretty fucked thing. The quintessential Indian firms that have offices in the US are basically pajeet outsourcing operations, they cant be good hackers. There are great Indian hackers but most people who write code for a living are not it. Programming jobs are seen as a goldmine here so people make milking them thier lifes objective.
I have no clue. Conversationally I never had any clue they had trouble with English. It was flawless. But it's like they suffered from some sort of specific language processing disorder where they simply could not synthesize new knowledge from spoken or written word. I have no idea how they learned anything in the first place, because nothing I ever said or wrote to them sunk in.
I think the best example I have is we had this one H1B on the QA team on a project I was on. Management was doing a demo, and wanted everybody off the servers so that the demo went off without a hitch. H1B decides that's the perfect time to do a full automated unit test against the demo servers. Project Manager runs into the back room mid demo yelling "WHO'S ON THE SERVERS!" H1B raises his hand and explains that he's running all the unit test. PM nearly cusses him out screaming at him to not run any more unit test, to which H1B agrees, and leaves satisfied that the message was got across. 15 minutes later PM runs back again wondering who the fuck didn't understand the simple directive stay off the server and H1B raises his hand again, because he was running the same damned unit test he was just running again. PM just stood their dumbfounded anyone could be that fucking stupid. Shit like that was a daily occurrence.
There was another Indian woman who was a project manager and my main point of contact for a contract. She was also the requirements expert for the project. There were 3 requirements that had this interaction where only 2 out of 3 of them could ever be completely obeyed in a fairly common edge case. No matter which two you picked, the 3rd was impossible. I spend roughly two days attempting to explain this problem to her, and consistently failed. It just kept going round and round, where I would explain that if I followed A & B, I couldn't follow C. She'd tell me to just do C anyways. I'd explain if I did C no matter what, I couldn't do A, so I'd be left with B & C. She'd insist I do A anyways. I'd explain if I did A & C I couldn't do B. And round and round and round like that until she tapped another project manager who immediately grokked the problem and changed the requirements. And that's more or less how every interaction with her went, which was frustrating because she was my primary technical point of contact. Every problem I had was 48-72 hours of beating my head against a brick wall until she handed me off to a non-Indian colleague who resolved the problem in 5 minutes.
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Fwiw pajeets at faang earn their keep. Probably because they need to actually pass a technical interviews to get in rather than just being able to con their way through informal interviews. But the blatant visa fraud mills give them all a bad name.
Yes absolutely. Avoid them like the plague.
This has been my experience in (non-FAANG) engineering, although most of the South Asian ancestry engineers I've worked with have been citizens or at least permanent residents that studied at good schools in the US, so it's probably not a representative sample of the space. I've had no real complaints about working with them, and many have been quite talented and motivated.
It's because Indians have 2 pathways to come to the USA.
high tier undergrad -> Masters -> FANG-ish job -> coastal T1 city -> upper middle / lower rich class dom.
low tier undergrad -> Sweat shop consultancy-> H1b lottery spam -> T2/T3 American city -> temporary life of squalor to save a few dollars
The strong selection effects mean that your experience with an Indian in the US is likely to either either be quite positive (cracked FANG engineers) or quite negative (DGAF sweat shop workers).
Definitely some of that. More than a few have been second (or more) generation, and a couple of those have talked about working for their parent's classic immigrant businesses (gas stations, laundromats, that sort of thing), so I don't think their ancestors all arrived with high-tier degrees.
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Honda Odysseys? The mini-van? Here, they're known for driving Honda Civics.
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