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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 11, 2024

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How would you be able to tell that the image had licensing information after it was deleted?

That's irrelevant to the question. Your claim is that if the Brooks photo was not deleted and had no licensing information, nobody could tell. The question is, are there any photos on Commons/wiki without licensing information, and are there any copyrighted photos on Commons?

How is that evidence of anything?

How is the fact that the guy who deleted this is running an automated unlicensed image deletion dragnet evidence of anything?

In the same minute that he deleted the Brooks photo, he deleted 18 other unlicensed images. In the ten minute window, he deleted 147 images total. All of them had been without a license for 8 days at that point. He then deleted the category that held images that were tagged as missing a license on July 3.

It's pretty obvious that this is an automated process where images without licensing information are tagged, added to a category, and then in 8 days those without licensing information are automatically garbage collected. I don't see any reason to add epicycles to this.

"When the Brooks mugshot was deleted from Wikipedia, it was the worst day of your life. For krd, it was Tuesday."

Your claim is that if the Brooks photo was not deleted and had no licensing information, nobody could tell

What? No, I asked my question because it's relevant to my claim, which is - if the Brooks photo was deleted and had licensing information, nobody could tell.

How is the fact that the guy who deleted this is running an automated unlicensed image deletion dragnet evidence of anything?

Yes. The way to get a position of influence in an organization is to actually do gruntwork.

Yes. The way to get a position of influence in an organization is to actually do gruntwork.

You're missing the point. The point is that there's nothing to distinguish this photo from the 150 other photos deleted in those ten minutes except that you feel strongly about this image. There's no indication at all that the process has been abused.

At this point, it seems it is you who has the unfalsifiable belief, namely, that this entirely routine, automated action was actually politically motivated.

You're missing the point. The point is that there's nothing to distinguish this photo from the 150 other photos deleted in those ten minutes except that you feel strongly about this image. There's no indication at all that the process has been abused.

I'm not missing the point, it's just not relevant to my views. There's a lot of work in an org like Wikipedia including deletions, so these other 150 deletions don't move the needle either way.

There's no indication that the process was abused, because you cannot access the licensing info of the image at the time it was deleted anymore.

At this point, it seems it is you who has the unfalsifiable belief,

I literally proposed a test that would falsify it.