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PaperclipPerfector  20d ago (text post)   1670 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for November 1, 2024

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There can be only two reasons for that, based on my experience: either you are an extreme, generational quality genius, proper Einstein of bug triage, or you've just got lucky so far.

I just know UNIX really well. It's not a freak accident. I used to go to bed reading UNIX programming manuals when I was a teenager. I know it at a fairly fundamental level. But it's also an open platform and there's been a lot of forks so there's been some natural selection on it as well on what runs today (not that it's all awesome everywhere).

I can't say the same about cloud platforms at all. They're purposefully atomized to a much larger extent and you can't see into them and there's no wisdom of the ancients text books that take you through the source code. The API is all you have, and the documentation usually sucks. Sometimes the only way I can figure some of the APIs out is by searching GitHub for ~hours to see if someone else has done this before, if I'm lucky.

Consequently, this means a bigger system will have to fall into hands of persons who, unlike you, aren't Einsteins. And if the system is built in a way that it requires Einstein to handle it, the system is now under catastrophic risk. It

None of what I'm arguing for really requires being the lone genius, but I recognize trying to hire teams of people with this kind of knowledge is probably a risk.

Whatever not my problem crank crank crank

Certainly I’ve found that diagnosing problems in Azure-based CI is an absolute nightmare because you can’t just go in and fiddle with stuff. You have reupload your pipeline, wait the obligatory 40 minutes for it to rebuild in a pristine docker, then hope that the print statements you added are enough to diagnose the problem, which they never are.

That said, it was still better than our previous non-cloud CI because it didn’t fail if you had more PRs than PCs or if you got shunted onto the one server that was slow and made all your perfectly functional tests time out. So I can’t condemn it wholeheartedly.

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