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You are quite hilarious but should really stop with the manosphere readings while you are at it with quitting the booze -- I can confirm that although I am perhaps twice your age I am indeed still able to get hammered, lol. My dad can pretty much do it to, so your worries are over for a long time I guess!
Ha, so now who can't get hammered, Mr. Enjoys Being Youthful?
(BTW I can also confirm that's it's possible to smoke and get hammered while taking way more speed than that, but I wouldn't necessarily want to recommend it for somebody in your apparent state)
I dont read the manoshphere lol, it is mostly bitter people who never actually approach girls but just sit on the sidleines and pontificate about how high vlaue they are.
got me there
I meant more in a carefree sense where people around me are able to do this stuff. Growing older brings more responsibilities. So I appreciate being in these environments around people. I dont get hammered routinely, i drink far far less freuqnently than almost everyone I know, my appreciation comes primiarly due to the environment.
Yeah, I need to fix a bunch of issues beforehand
Those environments are usually called 'bars' -- i recognize they are less common in India, but around here they are not hard to find.
If not the manosphere, where are you getting this 'life ends at 30' stuff from? It's not real man.
Life does not end at 30 but in that age, around 30-35, I would want to have kids. There is obviously something about being young, I appreciate things that come at different chapters of life, like how I do think that teenage love is a wonderful experience or how kicking it with friends when your in high school is.
Life 10 years ago was simpler than now, if this is true then 10 years later I might be a father with kids and that is added responsibility. Still, if I can still occasionally do this stuff then why no :)
Most of my life I just wanted to grow up, grow older and leave my house, sure my life has issues now, still I can and should enjoy the good in a way that helps me do better. It felt nice kicking it with drunk folks, I may not drink but look forward to more of this lol
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