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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 10, 2022

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Running a hot culture war podcast has higher risks.

This is not arguing against "banana republic kangaroo court BS" -- rather the opposite, in fact.

But it only has higher risks because hot culture war listeners are excitable and the insane drivel he was spewing caused them to hurt people. That doesn't strike me as kangaroo court BS, but rather rule of law trying to enforce a modicum of reasonable behavior. Stated differently, if you want to try to wield that kind of power you need to be more responsible.

He was slandering these completely innocent private citizens at a minimum.

What's on the other side of this argument? We should live in a world where people can blast completely wrong and malicious information about you on a top 50 podcast and the law is powerless to stop them? You don't think that the punishment for that sort of behavior should be "example making"?

But it only has higher risks because hot culture war listeners are excitable and the insane drivel he was spewing caused them to hurt people.

None of these claims were litigated.

We should live in a world where people can blast completely wrong and malicious information about you on a top 50 podcast and the law is powerless to stop them?

We should live in a world where blue-checks who claim Kyle Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an AR-15 and killed three black people can be successfully sued for One Billion Dollars. Until then, yes, Alex Jones gets to blast completely wrong information too, and should only be held responsible for the actual harm (not that his statements shocked the conscience of the jury), and should in fact get to defend the case on the merits and not just go directly to the penalty phase.

We should live in a world where blue-checks who claim Kyle Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an AR-15 and killed three black people

Bad, but not the same thing?

Wasn't this Rittenhouse claim debatable enough that it had to be factually settled in a court, though? The state prosecutor argued exactly the same thing as the blue checks.

OTOH, as far as I'm aware, the claims Jones made were clearly batshit crazy and would be thrown out instantly by a judge if he ever tried to introduce them in court.

Bad, but not the same thing?

Worse. Jones never accused anyone of a serious crime, nor does he have the reach or credibility of mainstream journalists.

Wasn't this Rittenhouse claim debatable enough that it had to be factually settled in a court, though?

No. That Rittenhouse killed two people, not three, was never in dispute. That neither of those people were black was not in dispute. That he did not carry the gun across state lines was not in dispute; it wasn't clear earlier on but it was by the time many of the blue-check claims were made.

OTOH, as far as I'm aware, the claims Jones made were clearly batshit crazy and would be thrown out instantly by a judge if he ever tried to introduce them in court.

Being "batshit crazy" argues for either "not defamation" or "lower damages", not higher. Because they're less likely to be believed by third parties.