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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 7, 2024

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Assuming I believed you, then it sounds to me like the proper thing to do is decriminalize keeping confidential documents if it is apparently no big deal. Hell at that point why even have confidential designation if it apparently means nothing?

It means nothing to the President -- it's legally arguable that he's already excluded from existing regulations, even once his term is up.

Assuming I believed you

You're aware that presidents normally continue to receive classified security briefings once their term is up? There's no need to handle the transfer of documents in a confrontational way, particularly so soon after leaving office -- it's just a fact that this is all completely unprecedented, and completely on the Biden admin.

Congressmen and Presidents get a massive amount of leeway, which is that them still having classified documents is considered a mistake and they're told to give them back. That in fact happened to Trump, and he claimed he was cooperating. This isn't about any information he received after leaving office, or about him simply having documents. This is about him saying he's returned documents and then they come back to Mar-a-Lago and find more that were obviously moved from the last time they searched, meaning they believe he was actively trying to obstruct them. Also he showed classified documents to civilians and admitted on recording that he knew they were classified documents.

Here is a timeline if needed

Do unprecedented things, get unprecedented treatment. Especially if you leave a bunch of slam dunk evidence.

Congressmen and Presidents get a massive amount of leeway

Not Congressmen, but with presidents it's not really leeway but rather that legally it's much closer to a l'etat c'est moi situation, and the norm is to not test this. Again, the request itself is unprecedented; see Biden. Despite his lack of Presidential privilege, nobody was knocking on his door asking for documents during Trump's term; nor should they have been.

Yeah as opposed to I don’t know doctoring emails sent to fisa courts or destroying evidence under subpoena. Who, whom.

How many times do I have to say I encourage them to pursue crime against Democrats?

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And how many times does it need pointed out that due to the location of the federal government and the jury pool there is very little odds Dems will get convicted. See Elias.

And honestly seemed a bit like a set up (ie files were sent to him and then he was hassled about it).

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