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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 7, 2024

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Didn’t she fail the first time?

She is also 60.

100 might be too low but she clearly is lower than 115 IQ.

The California Bar pass rate is about 1/3, including repeat testers.

Edit: Some other sites are giving me different numbers, about 50% here. But still I would argue knowing the general pass rate is important context.

That is for the February bar exam. Most new lawyers out of law school would be testing in July while those who failed in July would retest in February. I suspect that if you fail once the odds are good that you will fail again.

July 2023 pass rate was 51% and the overall pass rate seems to be between 40% and 50% depending on year.

https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/documents/admissions/Examinations/July-2023-CBX-Statistics.pdf

Fair. I actually did add most of that in an edit, because I do want to make sure I have my numbers right.

Still, I'm aware Kamala is not liked here, and I'm not that impressed by her either. But it seems a bit much to act like anyone at barely above average intelligence should be able to go to law school and pass the bar on the first try, when half of law school students couldn't.

The problem with bar exams isn't necessarily how difficult they are (the questions will be significantly easier than the ones you've been answering in your law school exams for three years already -- the logistical pain of dealing with the neurotic complaints of 10,000 law grads over every potentially ambiguous questions means everything is presented extremely straight-forwardly). It's that bar exams might ask you about random areas of the law youve never bothered studying because who the fuck wants to waste time in family law when you intend to be a commercial litigator.

Whenever a high-profile politician turns out to have failed the bar on their first attempt (surprisingly common), my assumption is that they were overconfident and/or already busy at whatever prestigious job they had lined up for after law school, blew off the bar prep, then got unlucky when the essay questions were all on subjects they never took.

No one that successful is going to be dumb enough that they can't pass the bar if they bother to actually put in the minimum expected effort. But they are arrogant enough to think they can skip doing the minimum expected effort.

I didn’t know she failed it, is that official or just a rumour?

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