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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 30, 2024

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Human cloning: not enough people want it badly enough. Same probably goes for surrogacy, with the added fact that anyone who could afford the criminal price could just afford legal workarounds.

In the case of CP I think it results in similar behavior to drug prohibition. Extensive criminal networks, child trafficking and all the associated crimes, etc. the people who want it want it bad, will pay for it, and have no easy substitutes.

Deepfakes are currently too easy and still readily available even when technically illegal. No market when the supply is nearly infinite and demand is relatively low.

None of those things are comparable. A better comparison is bans on drugs, which do result in broken kneecaps and gang shootings, and bans on prostitution, which result in the same.

Human cloning: not enough people want it badly enough.

How do you know when it's universally banned? Asking that question in a poll is like asking "are you a bad human who deserves to rot in jail?"

Deepfakes are currently too easy and still readily available even when technically illegal.

Wouldn't deepfakes solve previous CP problems? Deepfakes of any kind might be not so accessible anymore since we're still in yearly stages on banning it. E.g. in China it's OK with just "deepfake" watermark (or what it is) and South Korea only banned it 6 days ago.

How do you know when it's universally banned? Asking that question in a poll is like asking "are you a bad human who deserves to rot in jail?"

I notice a complete lack of any social judgment towards those who'd like human cloning to be legal, or anything adjacent to that. For contrast, look at the social judgment towards those who want to look at naked pictures (including obviously drawn pictures) of young women (including the obviously fictional ones) who are 17 years and 11 months old.

If you looked at society without knowing the laws, you'd probably assume that human cloning is legal, it's just that there is no use for it and that's why no one does it.

No, people who want cartoon River Tam porn are not judged in any way shape or form by society except possibly for not being able to shut up about it.

There's a funny thread not long ago you may have missed.