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Can you say more about this? Do you know anything more than what has been in the MSM so far?
The good news: it's pure "oh shit this could kick of." So far. I don't have any particular special information at this time but haven't seen anything more than all the other times it almost happens and then doesn't.
The bad news: all the revision, hysteria, and poor decisions about COVID has resulted in most people forgetting just how bad COVID was, and this will likely be worse. Our healthcare infrastructure may not survive another hit of that magnitude.
I can’t speak to most people, but I remember how bad it was. It was so bad that New York City had to bring in emergency 1,000-bed hospital ships in order to handle the overflow of cases. Of course, those ships sat virtually empty and unused, and their large crew of medical workers basically got to enjoy a free holiday, but still, they had to bring in ships! It was so bad, Covid-positive patients had to be rehoused away from the hospitals and into
empty schoolsnursing homes, for some reason. It was so bad that nurses were so exhausted, they barely had the time and energy to make TikTok videos to help keep people’s spirits up as they were imprisoned in their homes. It was bad.You are forgetting the lockdown sex parties. That was the worst of it. People were so scared top health officials had to secretly rent the hotel rooms “just be naked with friends”. Can you imagine?
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I mean, it doesn’t sound great. More Joseph Heller than George Orwell, though.
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Well, I guess thank you for appearing on command and making my point for me.
And what is your point? COVID was over-sold. Wildly over-sold, and that's the enduring legacy of the pandemic.
It was never that bad, because it was over-sold so completely that nothing short of civilization-ending pandemic could have been that bad.
It was oversold, it was also worse than the people complaining about it being oversold think it was.
"It also was looking more like a wolf than you think it was" is not very useful when you cried wolf for 2 years. That account is overdrawn so deeply that it doesn't matter anymore how much was in it initially.
Public health officials and the government keeping things gong too long is not the problem here, the problem is that lockdown skeptics have become COVID deniers. Yes shit was bad initially. Yes it was a near thing for quiet problems. No it was not just another flu. Etc. etc.
Saying that the lockdowns were a messaging and public health fuck up is totally fine, but from having these arguments in the past a lot of people are going too far.
Just because the vaccine doesn't make sense for healthy 18 year olds doesn't mean it's not a good idea, but you'd never get that from how people in these space over reacted.
I think the problem is exactly the officials that lied, cheated, stole, oppressed and brutalized the public for several years, with zero consequences, zero accountability and not even as much as mealy-mouthed apology. They keep claiming they did everything right, and the public was the ones too stupid to understand why it's all for their own good. I completely and totally understand people not believing a word that comes out of the mouths of anybody who is in any way connected to this establishment ever again. They didn't just use up their credibility, they piled it up, made a huge bonfire, and when that burned, they borrowed some, and set it on fire too. Their credibility is essentially in the same position as US Treasury now - trillions in debt and keeping digging down without any possible hope of ever reversing not even the value, not even the first, but all the higher level derivatives - they are all trending down. It's the exponential credibility collapse and still, you claim some rural dude that is now hesitant to get the 13th booster is the main problem that should be addressed. Nope, he is not. The fuckers who led us to this point are, and they are still largely in charge.
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Lived experience comes to the fore here though -- roughly everyone has by now experienced covid for themselves, and for many people it was in fact just another flu. (not even a particularly bad one, for me & mine)
When you are confronted by an environment where it's become clear that doctors, governments, and media have been lying to you more or less constantly for the past few years, lived experience is perhaps the only thing that you truly can know about covid -- and if you yourself shrugged covid off in a couple of days, the logical conclusion seems to be 'this was NBD'. Which if one thinks about it too much can lead to some unpleasant & uncharitable conclusions as to why the aforementioned liars made such a big deal about it.
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OK, I can grant that, but the people making decisions and the decisions made were the worst parts, far worse than the actual virus.
In many cases I believe the use of drugs like remdesevir and techniques such as ventilation caused deaths in people that would have survived the virus. I know my greatest fear was not that my dad would die from COVID, but that he would go to the hospital and die from treatment, all while I wouldn't be able to see him.
You're underselling how bad the medical profession acted.
The medical professions did great, public health borked it and medical professionals decided to agree with them.
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