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I have not. I have tried a few other brands of frozen pizza though, and never had one better than "mid".
I have sampled a lot of them and I generally agree. The walmart sam's choice brand ones were mostly edible, the great value brand ones less so. Unfortunately I think they discontinued the former. Red baron is okay if you're already tipsy when you start eating it, which has usually been the case when I've had it. Digiorno was forgettable and not worth the expense over the cheaper ones. Some of the expensive ones can be pretty solid, but at that point you aren't really saving money over getting takeout and they only make sense as something to bring to a remote and isolated vacation rental or something like that.
The last one I had that I actually kinda liked was one of the latter, a $12(!) california pizza kitchen-branded frozen pepperoni and honey thing. Tasted pretty good but absolutely not worth $12 when I could pick up a substantially larger hot and freshly made one from $mid_tier_national_chain or a similarly sized hot and freshly made one from $local_good_pizzeria for the same price.
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If you can afford it some of the options on Goldbelly are worth it. Much more upscale (but also more expensive) than traditional frozen pizza. You can also find some pretty prominent review/ranking places like OneBite that can give you some ideas for what frozen pizza is worth it.
Digornio is ass.
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A nearby deli has Italian frozen pizzas that are already half baked in an actual pizza oven (such that they have that nice blackened crust / base going on) before they add the toppings and flash freeze them. Set the oven to 450f, let a metal tray heat up for a half hour and then put the frozen pizza in for 10 minutes and they come out pretty great. But they’re also quite small and cost like £8 ($11) and therefore come at a minimal discount to picking one up nearby.
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Oh wow, even Red Baron?
Dude Red Baron is pretty mid. Also so is Little Caesars for that matter. I think you might just have low standards for pizza.
I always assumed RB was low tier. My parents only did Tombstone when I was a kid which is disgusting. However my in-laws have turned me onto the Classic Red Baron crust. For sometimes as low as $2.50/pizza (normally $3.50-$5.00) it's legitimately the most insane taste and calorie/$ ratio on the planet.
Home Run is too fatty for my taste, Screamin Sicilian is better than almost all of them but too expensive.
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Yeah. It wasn't bad, but it didn't blow my socks off either.
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