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Why can't we all just get along?

I've been thinking about conflict vs mistake theory lately, especially since the events of October in Israel last year.

I've been particularly trying to understand where support for Palestine (and Hamas, implicitly or not) comes from. Much has already been written about this of course, whether it's the bigotry of small differences or the trap of the "oppressor/oppressed thinking," the hierarchy of oppression, and so on.

What I found striking and want to discuss here though is the strain of thought responding to "how can LGBT+ support Palestine" by declaring, e.g., from Reddit:

It's easier to focus on getting gay rights when you're not being genocided.

Or from a longer piece:

The interviewer asks him, “What’s your response to people who say that you’re not safe in Palestine as a queer person?” Dabbagh responded, “First and foremost, I would go to Palestine in a heartbeat. I have no fear. I love my people and my people love me. And I want to be there and be part of the movement that ends up leading to queer liberation for liberated Palestinian people. If you feel that such violence exists for queer people in the Middle East, what are you doing to change that for that community? The first step is the liberation of Palestine.

I don't claim it's the most common strain of thinking, but to me this largely cashes out as "they are homophobic because of oppression/imperialism/Jews." As an aside, contrast with the way "economic anxiety" plays out in the US.

The part I want to focus on is this kind of blend of mistake and conflict theory -- there's conflict, yes, but it has a cause which can be addressed and then we'll all be on the same side. I'm skeptical of this blend, which seems to essentially just be false consciousness: if not for an external force you would see our interests align.

I think this mode of thinking is becoming increasingly popular however and want to point to the two most recent video games I put serious time into (but didn't finish) as examples: Baldur's Gate 3 and Unicorn Overlord (minorish spoilers ahead)


[Again, minorish spoilers for Unicorn Overlord and Baldur's Gate 3 ahead]

Baldur's Gate 3 was part of a larger "vibe shift" in DnD which I won't get into here except to say I think a lot of it is misguided. Nevertheless, there are two major examples of the above:

The Gith'Yanki are a martial, fascist seeming society who are generally aggressive powerful assholes. A major character arc for one of your team Gith'Yanki team members however, is learning she had been brainwashed and fed lies not just about the leader of the society and her goals, but also the basic functioning of the society. For instance, a much-discussed cure for a serious medical condition turns out to be glorious euthanasia.

The Gith have been impressed with a false consciousness, you see, and your conflict with them is largely based on a misunderstanding of the facts.

More egregious is the character Omeluum, who you meet early in the adventure. Omeluum is a "mind flayer" or "illithid":

Mind flayers are psionic aberrations with a humanoid-like figure and a tentacled head that communicate using telepathy. They feast on the brains of intelligent beings and can enthrall other creatures to their will.

But you see, even these creatures turn out to be the victim of false consciousness--Omeluum is a mind flayer who has escaped the mind control of the "Elder Brain." After fleeing, he happily "joined the good guys." You might think it's an issue that his biology requires he consume conscious brains, but fortunately he only feeds

on the brains of creatures of the Underdark 'that oppose the Society's goals', and wishes to help others of his kind by discovering a brain-free diet.

In the world of DnD (which has consciously been made to increasingly mimic our own world with mixed results), it seems that but for a few bad actors we could all get along in harmony.

Anecdotally, the last time I ran a DnD campaign it eventually devolved into the party trying to "get to the root" of every conflict, whether it was insisting on finding a way to get goblins to stop killing travelers by negotiation a protection deal with the nearby village which served both, or trying to talk every single cultist out of being a cult member. I'm all for creative solutions, but I found it got pretty tedious after a while.


The other game, Unicorn Overlord, is even more striking, albeit a little simpler. Unicorn Overlord is a (very enjoyable) strategy game where you slowly build up an army to overthrow the evil overlord. What you quickly discover, however, is that almost without exception every follower of the evil overlord is literally mind-controlled. The main gameplay cycle involves fighting a lieutenant's army, then using your magical ring to undo the mind control. After, the lieutenant is invariably horrified and joins your righteous cause.

I should note this is far from unusual in this genre, which requires fights but also wants team-ups. It's a lot like Marvel movies which come up with reasons for heroes to fight each other then team up, like a misunderstanding or even mind control. Wargroove was especially bad at this, where you would encounter a new friendly and say something like "Hello, a fine field for cattle, no?" but the wind is strong or something so they hear "Hello, a fine field for battle, no?" and then you fight. Nevertheless, the mind control dynamic in Unicorn Overlord is almost exclusively the only explanation used.


Funnily enough, I think in these an other examples this is seen as "adding nuance," but I find it ultimately as childish as a cartoon-twirling villain. The villain is still needed in fact (Imperialists, the Evil Overlord, The Elder Brain, The Queen of the Gith), but it's easier to explain away one Evil person who controls everything than try to account for it at scale.

Taken altogether, I can't help but think these are all symptoms of the same thing: struggling to explain conflict. The "false consciousness" explanation is powerful, but seems able to explain anything about people's behavior.

My suspicion is that mistakes and genuine conflict can both occur, but this blended approach leaves something to be desired I think. I had an idea a while ago about a potential plot twist for Unicorn Overlord where it's revealed you aren't freeing anyone -- you're simply bringing them under your own control but you don't notice. That feels a bit like the fantasy all of this is getting at I think: I have my views because of Reasons or Ethics or Whatever, and you would agree with me if not for Factor I'm Immune To.

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A good book can be a window, but so can travel. But even if you’re a reader, for whatever reason, most books, no matter what the setting tend to act and think like 21st century Californians wearing the costume of whatever country and century the book’s setting tends to imply. And especially upon reading history, no we’re pretty unique as a culture. Most of human history is much more concerned with religion, with ethnic conflicts, with improved social status, with marrying into a good family. They were less concerned with hedonistic pleasure, more group oriented, more pragmatic, and much less tolerant of bad behavior. Yet every modern fantasy novel seems to think that the difference between medieval France and modern France is the fashion and aesthetics.

But books, unlike TV and film, were being written by people 1/2/300 years ago. You can read those people in their own words (sometimes translated). That is the difference.

I mean sure if you’re reading books like that, but then again, in order to find books written by people 300 years ago, you’d have to do some pretty active searches, they’re not likely to be on Amazon bestsellers lists or, prominently featured in B&N, or actually available at a local county library. For most people, it’s the path of least resistance that decides what books will be the ones they choose, and so unless it’s a pop culture book or popular classic, most people won’t find it. What they will find is modern novels and modern fantasy or romance or sci-fi novels in which the characters are completely modern people stuck in a different setting.

I feel the same way about travel being somewhat overrated as a “mind expansion” experience. Sure, properly done, you can learn interesting things about other cultures and people and yourself. But if all you’re doing when you go to these places is hitting tourist hotspots, and you really aren’t getting the full experience. Going through Puerto Vallarta and visiting Mexico are different— because decades of tourists have shaped everything there into something that appeals to modern Anglo American sensibilities. The locals speak perfect English, the food will be what we expect Mexican food to be like.

No argument with either of those. I grew up with my grandparents' childrens' books, which probably shaped my outlook on many things.

(Side-point but while I agree with you on travel, I find the endless dick-measuring tiresome. "You travelled across rural India on a rickshaw? Well I was a missionary to an island off Surinam where they killed white people on sight!" and so on. I rather prefer the tourist hotspots. At least everyone knows where they stand and nobody with a brain things they're going to receive anything more than a tan.)