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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 9, 2024

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There were people in the late 19th and early 20th century who grasped an important point about ballistics that drove them toward a hypothetical high velocity 6.x mm round as the ideal round. They were ignored by the gigantic round advocates in charge of the US at the time. But they existed. That was originally published in 1930, it was republished 1957.


In the 19th century the US Navy correctly envisioned the future and developed a high velocity round.

the explosive effect of a small-caliber, high-velocity bullet against the human body—the bullet tumbles or fragments to produce devastating wounds against bone or fluid-filled organs—would be more incapacitating at all ranges than wounds made by a slow-moving bullet of large caliber

In a report used to justify the development of the 19th century .236 Navy.

Looking at the development of the 7.62x39 I see that the Soviets considered dozens of alternatives. But never once considering high velocity smaller diameter. Maybe they were unaware of American and British developments in high velocity smaller caliber rounds. And so merely made a really underpowered version of some 19th century round.

Maybe they were unaware of American and British developments in high velocity smaller caliber rounds.

They already had a perfectly serviceable intermediate round that they had only recently phased out- the 6.5x50mm Japanese cartridge. Soviets had Not Invented Here syndrome.

In a report used to justify the development of the 19th century .236 Navy.

Which they didn't continue with. Too much barrel wear- materials science and manufacturing tolerances just weren't there yet.

The advantage of going larger (and using shorter projectiles) means you don't get nearly as much barrel wear; to the point that you'll crack the receiver on an AK at the trunnion (a consequence of being one step removed from a bolt-action conversion) before you shoot the barrel out. This is why, when you compare 6.5 Creedmoor guns to .308, and fire the same weight of projectile, you'll find the barrel on the 6.5 will be shot out sooner- you'll also notice that all the other militaries that used 6.5mm cartridges underloaded them compared to how hot they would be loaded later on, and I think this has something to do with it. 6.5 Grendel guns have the same issue compared to 7.62x39 (though to a much lesser degree than 6.5CM), which is why the only military that uses that round is running a shorter 108-grain projectile (at 2750 FPS) rather than a comparable 124-grain one from 7.62x39 (running around 2400).

7.5 French uses a slightly shorter, lighter projectile compared to 7.62 NATO for similar reasons.

a really underpowered version of some 19th century round

.30-30 is perfectly adequate for animals in the 200-pound weight class regardless of how many legs they walk on. 7.62x39 wasn't even the first cartridge to copy that ballistic profile; that one goes to .30 Remington, then 7.35 Carcano (all 51-52mm in length- inefficient when you consider how much brass is needed to make those cartridges compared to 7.62x39, but all of them are exactly as powerful as they need to be).

It's also the most powerful intermediate cartridge; 7.92x33 (and later, .300 Blackout) is down 200 FPS from the Soviet round, and 7.62x33 (aka .30 Carbine) runs 400 FPS slower. But .30 Carbine is not really a 300 yard cartridge, whereas x39 has a much easier time of it.