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Culture War Roundup for the week of August 26, 2024

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Life long democrat and anti-Trumper, both after viewing pro-Democrat media, repeat Democrat talking-points and feel like they are told to feel. About as big news as that after Trump stated 2020 election was stolen, his supporters also questioned its validity.

And this is examining your anecdote in the most charitable way possible. Your political affilition is well-known, so inventing it would serve your interests. Thus by the converse of Criterion of embarrassment, it is less likely to be true, than if it were told by someone more to the right.

And this is examining your anecdote in the most charitable way possible.

No, I'm afraid this is not sufficiently charitable. It's okay to express your doubt regarding the veracity of a story, but even then you would need to do so in a less antagonistic way. For example:

To be honest I find it difficult to believe anecdotes like this one. It seems like everywhere I look, people are doing their damnedest to pretend that a historically unpopular and utterly unaccomplished politician suddenly has incredible merit. I'm not saying you're lying, but maybe this is the real essence of a "vibe shift": people consenting to an artificial narrative (or propaganda) shift rather than (or even in opposition) to any relevant facts on the ground.

When you make the conversation about a person instead of about the ideas under discussion, you lower the quality of discourse. We're not here to hold referendums on one another's character, but rather to have civil discussions with people who don't always agree with us. Please keep that more closely in mind.

His interests of what? This is theMotte, not an opinion column in the NyT.

He is not claiming that Kamala is good or that you should vote for her but that in his real life democrats are excited and centrists less apprehensive about the democrats, which seems to align well with what polling and donations show.

Nice to see you too, buddy.

I agree that this is about as predictable as old rednecks getting excited over the border wall, or college students chattering about Palestine, or whatever’s the tribal flag of the week. I think it’s interesting mostly as a counterexample to claims of astroturfing. There’s no intermediate step where the Democratic machine launders Kamala into a saint, at which point people get excited. No, they just start cheering for the most pedestrian reasons.

Tell me more about my interests, though. Maybe I’ll learn something.

Tell me more about my interests, though. Maybe I’ll learn something.

If you stick around TheMotte long enough, you live to become the progressive. You filthy life-long democrat, you.

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