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PaperclipPerfector  3mo ago (text post)   905 thread views

Transnational Thursday for August 1, 2024

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There's a big prisoner exchange in progress between Russia and US+friends. A bunch of political prisoners have disappeared in the last couple of days, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons has removed the data about several Russian inmates.

I wonder how hilariously one sided this one will be. Hopefully not as bad in terms of what is being encouraged and effects like Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange but I have no high hopes here.

It was one-sided, but from a different direction: about 2x more people released from Russia.

From what it looks like at a glance, though, the West gave away mostly Russian spies and assassins, while Russia released mostly relatively harmless dissidents.

Harmless to Russia or harmless objectively? These are not the same thing.

for me answer seems "both"

basically Russia found way to get their murders: just threaten to murder more people if you will not get them back! (see Navalny)

I'm talking about those that were sentenced on the fresh law about "discrediting the Russian Armed Forces", so, I assume, harmful mostly to the Russian government's ego.

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