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yeah his current audience trajectory points to him scrounging at home depot any day now, only 14k viewers while he does incredibly boring shit.
this whole conversation about destiny and free speech is so illuminating to me. The idea that there are no bad tactics just bad targets seems to be much more widespread and bipartisan than i had initially assumed.
I might be missing something, but I don't quite see how poking fun at a guy while I'm defending a person that just lost their job is indicative of "no bad tactics, only bad targets".
im talking about the tweet you posted, not you
I believe he's doing the exact same thing I described.
real answer: im talking about the broader discussion around the streamer in question and how he is being "cancelled" by rightoids for saying mean things.
fun answer: that streamer pissed a bunch of people off by poking fun at a guy that just so happened to be dead
It's still not clear to me what exactly you want to discuss here. I'm not rightoids, and neither is the man I quoted. I am, at most, a single rightoid, and Marino's isn't even that, so your response feels neither here nor there.
And the problem with accusations of hypocrisy is that they go more than one way. I don't recall Destiny and his fans being free speech absolutists, and given his take on an innocent man that was shot dead, I'm having a hard time believing his reaction to me getting cancelled would be any more sympathetic. So why should anyone bother defending him?
my man you literally just posted a tweet, and i commented some of my thoughts on it. i didn't expect you to take offense if i'm being honest. I don't know what your political alignment is and i don't know the tweeter's. All i know is that the tweeter is dunking on a person who i agree with to some degree.
The line i said about the shoe being on the other foot is more about the outpouring of people ready to take shots at destiny, not about you or any one guy, and the reason its funny is because his joke about not caring about a guy getting shot is prettymuch the most "sticks and stones" type shit to be mad about in a situation where actual political violence just occurred. A guy just tried to kill the president but being disrespectful to the collateral damage is the thing people take umbrage with?
cant speak for his fanbase writ large, and i dont believe he is an absolutist, but his revealed preferences put him at a "more free speech than the left is currently comfortable with" point on the map. I would say this incident also puts him at "more free speech than the right is currently comfortable with". He got cancelled WAY harder back when he said white people should be able to say the N word if they arent calling a black guy the word, so its not like this is the first time he decided people should be able to speak freely.
I don't know why you think I'm taking offense. My confusion is probably coming from the "all I know the tweeter is dunking on a guy I agree with" nature of your response. I thought you were responding either to me in particular, or to the tweet Author (which, in my defense, you did explicitly say), and that you are looking to initiate some sort of a conversation. If it's just an off-the-cuff reaction with the tweet as the prompt... carry on then, I guess, but I won't have much to say here, I think.
with no offense meant, thats kinda what i expected from interacting with a comment that is just "hah look at this tweet i found".
I gave a super short, low context comment because the tweet was talking about an event i'm familiar with, and i thought that was the vibe i was responding to. If you want to talk about the tweet or the events it refers to perhaps you could start by sharing more of your opinion than "this is my favorite tweet about a thing"
also sorry for assuming you were offended, im at work and lets say that my main mode of communication today has been more adversarial than i would like, and it may be coloring my usually mellow aura.
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Trample a norm long enough, and it stops being a norm. Enforce a rule long enough, and it becomes a norm. "your rules applied fairly" was a meme back in 2014. "This will be bad if it doesn't change" was said for a decade, and it didn't change. So now we get "this will be bad".
"its all so tiresome" was a meme back then too. Not knocking the republicans who are getting their licks in right now, turnabout is fair play. That said im not sure that we have trampled a norm any more than we have proven that given the opportunity some people will, and always would, pillory their political opponents. The new thing is that the opportunities are more plentiful if you look hard enough and there are more people visible to either parties twitter inquisitioners. Its not like home depot lady is the first person the right has found that even the left cant defend.
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