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PaperclipPerfector  5mo ago (text post)   3724 thread views

Small-Scale Question Sunday for July 14, 2024

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How many upvotes do I need to escape the filter?

I don't know. I don't know if it's a fixed number. Just participate regularly and eventually you won't be flagged as a new user.

I know @AhhhTheFrench's had trouble with being flagged because he gets downvoted a lot. Now, he's significantly less pleasant to deal with than @Doubletree2 here, but do you think the vote totals being involved might end up disproportionately hurting those whose views differ from the typical mottizen's?

Yes, it does have that effect. guesswho/darwin stayed in the new user filter despite being a regular poster because he was downvoted so heavily.

It is an inconvenience, but I'm not sure what alternatives Zorba might want to implement.

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