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PaperclipPerfector  5mo ago (text post)   2844 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for July 5, 2024

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Is there a better alternative to Spotify extant?

yt-dlp downloads a song in about 3 seconds. On telegram, vk music bot lets you do the same.

Way too much hassle. I pay for instant convenience.

I pay for instant convenience.

Go with Apple Music.

YouTube Music is better in the very specific way that it allows you to play songs from YouTube videos on your phone in the background, without keeping the video up on your screen, and without having to download the video at all. If there's a lot of music you want to listen to that is on YouTube and is not licensed to any streaming services, it's the obvious choice.

Which is to say, its killer feature is facilitating light piracy. In other respects it leaves much to be desired, but being a fan of Showa-era Japanese pop music, for me they're the only game in town.

I just put YouTube reVanced on my new phone, haven't tried the music-specific one yet. Works amazingly well, and of course has background play and no ads.

Wow. That is really good. I tend to download rather than stream music, since I'm often working well out of range of my Wi-Fi network (and have a $10/mo limited data phone plan), but that's great for music discovery around the house.

I want as little to do with google as possible.

You don't need to pay for youtube to play music in the background. NewPipe can do that.

Yeah, getting sponsor block and downvotes back was my biggest reason for dropping Newpipe for reVanced (except for downloads)

What constitutes "better" in your view? For me, having your own collection of music + using something to stream (e.g. Plex) blows Spotify out of the water because I don't value the ability to browse new music on Spotify. If you do value that, then obviously hosting your own music isn't a great option. So you need to lay out requirements a bit more to get recommendations.

I have a music collection, but I switched from my mp3 player to my phone around Covid, when I couldn't be bothered to keep the former charged. I now try to listen to my own collection when I don't have any conference calls, but foobar2000 has a discoverability problem.

A streaming service might not have everything I want, but it's a skippable radio: I can tell it to play me some synthwave, or classic hard rock, or EDM, and it will, throwing both familiar and less known performers at me. If I don't like a song, I can skip it, if I really don't like it, I can dislike it, and the service will remember.

I have a well-organized collection, so I can drag the "classic rock" folder into the playlist and it will play the songs from there, but the number of songs by each artist doesn't really reflect how much I want to listen to them. I am not going to delete the discographies of The Doors and Pink Floyd just because I only like a handful of songs from each band. I am not going to split my collection into "hoarding" and "listenable" piles, either. So I have to make playlists, and I don't have enough patience for that.

So I find myself resorting to the streaming service simply because I can tell it, "computer, play me some more terrible upbeat pop like The Ting Tings", and it will.

Right.

I enjoy the possibility of getting instant access to most music without having to go via a site/torrent etc, and having it available on my phone too without any in-between. Just searching up a track or a podcast and listening instantly is worth something to me. I do feel Spotify is a tad overpriced versus what I actually get from it though. Most of the time I just listen to tracks on my liked list/a playlist.

It sounds to me like you may want to have a private collection of music for most of your listening, and just keep free Spotify around for the cases where you want to go listen to some random song. Assuming the free tier is still a thing, that is - I haven't used it in a while. That way you can still pull up something for instant access to music, but don't have to pay a sub where you aren't really getting much value most of the time.

Free Spotify has a long ad, if I remember correctly.

Do you need access to your music collection if you aren't home?

Not all of it, no.

You could look into self-hosted options. Another popular music streaming service is Apple Music, which works best if you are already in the Apple ecosystem.

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