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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 1, 2024

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The fraudulent part was when Democratically-aligned bureaucrats conspired to have the votes (which happened to be disproportionately Democratic) cast & counted.

The ballots were illegal, which the people taking the votes didn't like -- so they counted them anyways.

How is "counts invalid ballots" not central "election fraud"? (particularly when that act favours the counters' preferred candidate)

I think you're subtly shifting "invalid" there. A ballot that accurately represent the intent of an eligible & qualified voter who has voted only once is not invalid in the sense required to be fraud. It's certainly not central to election fraud, that conveys the notion of stuffed ballots or dead people voting or multiple-voting.

A ballot that accurately represent the intent of an eligible & qualified voter who has voted only once is not invalid in the sense required to be fraud.

As with the homemade crayon ballot, the person submitting that ballot is not committing (deliberate) fraud -- the person who counts it is. What is 'central to election fraud' if not 'counting ballots that do not comply with local laws'? (particularly in this case, as the ballots in question were known to skew D)

Counting a ballot submitted at 9:05 when the polls were meant to close is a pretty good example of non-central.

Central to fraud would be something that changes the result as compared to an accurate count of eligible voters each of which voted once.

For example if central fraud:

  • modifying vote totals
  • individuals voting more than once
  • counting ballots for a candidate other than the one specified
  • ineligible voters voting

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