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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 17, 2024

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Alright, you and @Ben___Garrison are getting two things confused. The water leak was earlier in the morning and had nothing to do with anyone leaving. At around 10 pm the Fulton County people decided to call it for the evening and began packing up. They finished around 10:30 and people started to leave, including the media and observers. When they told the Secretary of State's office they were told that they were to continue counting through the night, at which point they went back in and began counting. The water main break only ogt into this story through journalistic sloppiness, I'm guessing because someone with a news outlet Tweeted a rumor they overheard and it got reported as news. Either way, I don't see what this has to do with any evidence of fraud. I'm guessing the argument is that they wanted to get the observers out of there so they could pull all those fake Biden ballots they had hidden under the table and count them, but there's no evidence of this. It's pretty clear from CCTV footage that the ballot boxes they pulled out from under the table at 11 pm were the same ones they pushed under the table at 10:30. I don't know how the observers present would have been able to tell a fake ballot from a real one. I don't know how you can convince dozens of election workers (who are usually county employees and generally don't want to be there) to commit blatant fraud without any of them giving up the whole thing. I don't know how you could convince a Republican state government to go along with the fraud and the subsequent coverup. I don't know the mechanism for how fake ballots are supposedly generated. This entire theory makes no sense. Even if the accusations of the county phonying up a water main break to get observers out of there were true, you still have to prove the fraud.

I'm guessing because someone with a news outlet Tweeted a rumor they overheard and it got reported as news.

One might further guess that the rumour got started because that's what the observers were told, if we're guessing here -- I think some of them have said so publically. This would still fit with facts on the ground -- certainly it was reported on various traditional media live on the night of.

At around 10 pm the Fulton County people decided to call it for the evening and began packing up. They finished around 10:30 and people started to leave, including the media and observers. When they told the Secretary of State's office they were told that they were to continue counting through the night, at which point they went back in and began counting.

The facts as you present them, regardless of the water leak claim, is that vote counting continued after the observers, having been told that counting was finished for the night, left. That's substantively identical to the complaint that counting which dramatically flipped the result continued without bipartisan observation, no?

Interesting. Somehow I follow this place pretty closely, skim the headlines most days and was nevertheless completely unaware of the full facts of this story.