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What is the story behind this picture?
Stable Diffusion 3 is the newest AI/diffusion-based image generation model from Stability AI. Unique among image generation model-creating companies, Stability AI tends to release many of their models publicly with "open weights", allowing users to run them locally and independently on their own computers. This means that they can then be "finetuned" to produce images somewhat outside of the scope of what Stability AI originally intended (with the earlier versions being less censored and capable of producing quite a bit in their vanilla configuration anyway). Unfortunately this also has constantly put them under the gun from the usual suspects complaining about deepfakes, "CSAM", etc. supposedly being enabled by them.
So in order to attempt to evade as much heat from the commissars as possible this time (as they basically already bent the knee and cucked a few years ago anyway, since they need VC cash as these models don't pay to train themselves), they tried to make it as difficult as possible for their newest model to show you a titty, because that's wrongthink, which as a (presumably) unintended side-effect also generally crippled the model's ability to generate normal, non-Lovecraftian human anatomy in the process (much to the local AI community's widespread amusement, mockery, and derision, infuriating Stability's fanboys and defenders who are trying to gaslight everyone with the notion that people "just don't know how to use it yet"), turning what would have been a cutting-edge, state-of-the-art model/piece of open tech into primitive trash straight out of 2020. In the image linked meanwhile, instead of the woman being mangled, it instead just straight up gave her a man's body, again to avoid any risk of profaning the modern anointed sex with unauthorized depictions of their own anatomy.
I haven't tried SD 3 because it looks like an even bigger flop than SD 2.0, but 1.5 and SDXL are still out there.
That said, horny will find a way.
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What was the prompt? Was she meant to be depicted in a bikini? If she's got a man's body, what are the black squiggles that look like an attempt to censor female-presenting nipples? Were those added by the poster?
I don't think OP posted it. [Nevermind, see reply]
Presumably some sort of feminine swimwear
I doubt they were added by the poster. Rather, the AI probably recognized that, even if it had trannied the subject overall, it was still drawing nipples attached to a body attached to a female face, so it corrupted them itself. It looks like a standard AI glitch.
It's in your own link:
I'm willing to bet at very unfavorable odds what the model produced without inclusion of "Swedish" in the prompt.
My bad
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