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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 10, 2024

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It's schizophrenic.

Yeah, it’s Schrodinger’s porn when it comes to the NYT types.

Porn is good as a form of female empowerment and good for pissing off their fathers and pwning the socons.

Porn is bad as depictions of women being submissive sex objects (because everyone knows IRL women are strong and independent and their revealed preferences totally show they hate being sex objects) and as a substitute for IRL women on the margins, lessening men’s dependence on women and their desire to monkey-dance and jump through hoops for women. Court-jestering for a 5 with no guarantee of getting laid sounds less appetizing when you can crank it to 9s doing various kinds of fatherless things.

One recurring complaint from lipstick feminists is that online porn streaming sites post a lot of disgusting content featuring choking, slapping, spanking and other forms of submissive female behavior, and they do so in order to pander to icky White dudebros.

Yeah. Or maybe not.

I can't express just how penis-shrivelling this type of porn is. I wish the industry didn't cater to the other half of population so I couldn't see it even accidentally.

Unlike IRL women of course, who definitely don’t get aroused by getting spanked, choked, slapped, or otherwise dominated in bed.

Maybe this is your point, but this always struck me as them telling on themselves. I've seen my share of online porn - almost certainly far more than all but the most extreme of the lipstick feminists - and I've never once just stumbled on porn of women being choked/slapped/etc. and extremely rarely do I even run into women being submissive. It's not my thing, so I don't seek it out, and as a result, whatever algorithm these sites are using don't make it visible to me.

Given that males and females both tend to prefer submissive to dominant roles in fantasy (if I recall the surveys correctly) the intended audience for that sort of thing might generally be generic women consumers of porn, rather than you.

In terms of revealed preference, the NYT-type stance would be inverted. I guarantee the vast majority of NYT male writers and readers regularly watch porn. And the vast majority of NYT readers and writers of either sex would be quite upset if their 18 year old daughter came home and announced that she was going to be a professional porn star and needed a couple hundred dollars for anal training devices.

And a commonality among cigarette smokers is that they will tell you not to start. Reading too much into revealed preferences is as big a mistake as taking everything at face value.

No doubt most NYT readers and writers sit somewhere in the middle.

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