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1hr ago
Thanks man. I appreciate the support. It was indeed a frustrating conversation, but on the other hand it's been out of my mind since then so I guess it couldn't have been that bad lol
I do agree with your broader point, that the people who kind of push people away from the faith the most are the super traditional ones. IDK why, exactly, I am sure it's not their intent. All I know is just about every time I go on /r/catholocism I come away from it going "man those people are crazy and if I didn't know lots of very nice Catholics IRL I would run screaming".
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14hr ago
Basically that America has become a totalitarian state on par with Russia, etc. I imagine that it was prompted by the re-election of Trump, because people love to claim he's literally Hitler. But regardless of the inspiration, that's the message.
As a meme, it fits with the general form of Polandball memes. I don't particularly think those are good memes, but I suppose it's a matter of taste.
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1d ago
It makes sense to me. I think it's a stupid message, but as a meme it works well enough.
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1d ago
Advertising doesn't do any good, for instance; who's going to buy Coke instead of Pepsi because they heard an ad?
I mean... I'm pretty sure that's true though. Advertising is obviously useful if you are a company nobody has ever heard of (or if you are an established company with a new product). But it is pretty clearly a waste of money for Coke to run most of their ads, and it only persists because nobody is brave enough to stick his neck out and try to not run them.
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3d ago
Because I'm not a hypocrite? I don't really think it needs a justification to be willing to apply rules consistently, or to be willing to suffer the negative consequences of a rule because you believe it's a good rule overall.
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3d ago
It turns out that I do not hold opinions on policy based on whether or not the negative consequences of said policies personally impact me or those I love.
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3d ago
I personally would like to get rid of the two examples you mentioned as well. The kind of big brother monitoring banks do is obnoxious as hell and I'm not convinced it is an overall value-add for society.
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3d ago
The BBC says that in 2018, 93% of all marriages in the country were arranged.
Wow. I knew arranged marriages were a thing, but I didn't know they were that ubiquitous. With that many marriages being arranged, are the handful of people who don't go that route looked down upon as weirdos or anything?
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5d ago
Sure, you don't have to appeal to people if you remove the democratic nature of our government. But that is so far outside the realm of probability that it isn't worth discussing.
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5d ago
Why not?
Is not the better course to make the electorate change for the better, whatever it takes?
Simply put, because you can't. All you can do, and all they have done, is cause people to not speak their true thoughts under threat. But that doesn't change them, that simply makes them quietly resent you and bide their time. And since we live in a democratic society, you really do need to change them.
I'm aware of all the various rhetoric you quoted saying "we shouldn't waste time trying to appeal to them". But that rhetoric is exactly why they lost this election, and why they will continue to lose elections (not every election to be sure, but enough) until they realize that politics is not a game of who is the most self righteous and preachy.
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5d ago
No, but it does make them not feminine if both men and women are prone to the behavior.
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5d ago
Because his plot to overturn the 2020 election failed?
I feel like that just goes one level deeper (insert Inception fog horn here), because not everyone agrees that such a plot existed to begin with.
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5d ago
Which indeed is the crux of the problem with the left in America these days: they refuse to acknowledge that yes, you have to actually engage with people that you want to convince. You can't just preach at people and demand they convert. You need to do the hard work of talking to people, understanding where they're coming from, and trying to appeal to them in terms that they can appreciate.
A lot of times the left can get away with this, for example in Hollywood and stuff where they have a stranglehold on the culture. But when it comes to elections, you can't berate people into voting for you. And unless they learn that lesson, they're going to have more Trump-style "how could America vote for these awful people" losses.
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5d ago
These can both be explained by the same thing: the vocal anti-Trump "resistance" folks are part of a social group where people who fight oppressors on behalf of the little guy have a ton of status. Everyone loves a David vs Goliath story, but for this subculture that tendency is way stronger than it is for other groups. That means that these people are more likely to be overzealous in identifying tyranny (because they subconsciously want the chance to fight for freedom like the stories they were raised on), and more likely to be very conspicuous in their efforts (so that they can get the approval of their peers). If they were fighting an actual tyrant they would need to be more circumspect (as you point out), but anyone who has grown up in America is so far removed from actual tyranny that they don't even recognize how good they have it.
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7d ago
Based on his past record, this is blatantly not true.
I disagree. His past record shows that his presidency will not be significantly different from any other.
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7d ago
Such an amendment would discredit the government for obvious reasons.
Not obvious to me, can you elaborate? I personally think that there doesn't need to be an amendment because the federal government doesn't have authority to restrict abortion anyways, but I don't see how it would be bad to include an amendment to explicitly prohibit it.
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8d ago
For what it's worth there is a grid if you build on foundations. But I don't disagree that it's a hassle. Building stuff is a veritable chore in Satisfactory, not helped by the fact that the devs have refused to implement blueprints big enough to actually be useful.
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8d ago
How was this exactly a skeleton.
How is it not? The fact that she got her political career started by the power of her vagina instantly disqualified her as a candidate in my mind. And yes, I'm someone who could have been convinced to vote for her if not for that. I'm sure I'm not alone. So, if her past behavior turned away potential voters, that qualifies as a skeleton in her closet to me.
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9d ago
I genuinely think you're typical-minding here.
To be fair, the mindset he describes is typical in my experience. People that invested in politics are not the majority, thankfully.
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9d ago
My wife is black, is upset about the election results (more than I think she should be tbh), and she isn't saying stuff like that. Of course, if she was crazy enough to overreact on that level I wouldn't have married her. /shrug
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9d ago
Note that I didn't say "if you're shitting bricks about Trump winning you're crazy", though. It's very specifically the idea of "all women should punish all men by refusing to have sex with them" that I called crazy (and it is). A normal, well-adjusted person isn't going to immediately jump to punishing half of the country because of an election result.
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9d ago
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9d ago
It's crazy on day one. It's a wild overreaction and a normal, well-adjusted person would understand that.
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9d ago
It's possible that the advice of others is the correct way to go, and it may be the case, but don't do it prematurely.
I don't think anyone is saying it needs to be brought up proactively, just pointing out that if it does come up it'll be ok in the end no matter what happens.
I know totally normal women who are saying nobody should have sex with men anymore.
I know it's kind of off-topic, but I would not call those totally normal women lol. Anyone who says that unironically is crazy.
Oh yeah, I should've mentioned that. But you are correct. Lots of multiplayer games (TF2 but also others) have balancing mechanisms to even out the number of players on each team if they get too lopsided. So all of a sudden you can find yourself playing on the other team. The reference isn't meant to be taken literally, because obviously there isn't an algorithm switching allegiances around IRL. It's really just a jokey way to say "America has switched sides".
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