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HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
Failed repeatedly in his attempts to die a hero and has now lived long enough to become the villain.
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HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
What I don't understand is what you think there is to reconcile. To me you seem to be to be starting from a desired conclusion IE on of strict race-essentialism and bio-determinism and then working backwards. If I am not someone who believes in those things, or who otherwise does not buy into the Left's wider narratives about group and class identity, where is the contradiction?
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
You seem to be using that term exactly the opposite way of Yudkowski, as HBDers have no problem linking those beliefs to anticipated outcomes.
Am I? Are they?
My reply to you is effectively the same as my reply to @The_Nybbler, even if HBD is true (and that is an "if") what value does "HBD Awareness" add over a colorblind meritocracy in terms of anticipated experiences?
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
What is there to explain? If the HBDers are correct, a color blind and meritocratic set of policies will lead to the same outcome as an "HBD aware" set, and if they are wrong, it is not I who owes anyone an explanation, it is they.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
I think there’s another trend that happened alongside the loss of religion and the rise of the low trust society— the decline of communal activity.
These are not separate trends they are the same trend. The oft ignored downside to "freedom for freedom's sake" and being "unbound" is that no one is bound to you.
One of the less stupid notions to come out of LessWrong was the idea of making one's beliefs "pay rent"
The fundamental problem with HBD as it is typically advocated by dissident progressives and users here on theMotte is that if the hypothesis is correct (and that is a big "IF") the actual benefit/utility to adopting "HBD Awareness" over some flavor of "colorblind meritocracy" will be less than zero. Accordingly I feel that it only appropriate to question why certain individuals/users seem to be so invested in their opposition to "blank slatism". I have my theories but none that are likely to be considered "charitable" or "kind" by the mod team.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
From the perspective of cultural evolution, it only makes sense if the "abort females" meme is passed on more by fathers than by mothers.
You've got that backwards don't you? It makes more sense if it's pushed by the mothers.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
If you don't rebel you die. Death is one of the few absolute certainties in life. You're also wrong about not having a choice, we all have a choice in who we serve.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
but I’m not aware of a pattern of such killings by Putin.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
I know it's an unpopular take here but the older i get the more convinced I've become that you cannot derive healthy morally upstanding behavior from materialism and self-interest (enlightened or otherwise) alone. A strictly "rational" worldview inevitably devolves into either nihilism, hedonism, or psychopathy.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
As @ControlsFreak observes down-thread
People really run away from agency/blame when it casts shade on their own actions or their political commitments...
If you would prefer to "serve in Hell" rather than "rebel" or "withdraw" that is wholly on you. Once again, are you not the captain of your soul?
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
Except for the part where "To serve in Hell" is a choice one makes.
"Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven"
Is it though?
Sounds a lot like hubris to me. All men must serve, even a King. There are no rights nor privileges without responsibilities.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
So what you seem to be saying is that Democrats are the real racists. I'm glad we can finally agree on something.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
I'm suddenly reminded of scenario in the Moon is a Harsh Mistress where the alleged founder and public-face of the lunar Independence movement is actually an AI-generated amalgam of multiple people.
Hal has been floated as a candidate for years and the evidence never bears out. Why would Satoshi create a Hal persona?
I think you are confusing consequent and antecedent, if you instead ask "why would Hal create a Satoshi persona?" the answer becomes obvious. If the goal is to remain hidden it will always be more difficult to find something that does not exist than something that does.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
No, but that's not what "dominance" means.
We're not debating the definition of "dominance" we're debating the definition of "effective", and in either case @Belisarius appears to disagree with you else it begs the question; "What's the point?"
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
The idea that identity politics are not effective is simply false. The dominant coalitions rely on identity politics and use it for the advantage of the groups that it comprises.
For all of that alleged "dominance" what have they actually accomplished? What great works have been produced? Are the environments where the Identitarians hold sway happier, healthier, and more equanimous? Or are they more often than not complete (and occasionally literal) shit-shows?
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
Not just ineffective, but corrosive and distinctly Left-Wing/Rousseauean in nature.
I find myself wanting to ask them; are you not the Captain of your soul?.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
IQ correlates with achievement in the general case
What part of "it's primary role is to sort aspiring members of the chattering class into 'winning' and 'loosing' buckets" did you not understand?
No, what I don't understand is how it's supposed to be an argument in favor of HBD and against individual merit.
ETA: or rebutt my claims regarding [current year] academia for that matter.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
Let this be yet another reminder that LLMs are not reasoning engines, and that while nested regression can be an effective approach to certain use-cases, it is absolutely terrible for others.
do you mean the email server?
Do we really need to go over all of this again?
Per Comey's report "Exonerating" Clinton, on at least three occasions Clinton or someone on her staff made unauthorized copies of classified documents for whom the Secretary of State was not the classifying authority. All 3 of said documents were tagged "Top Secret" and "SCI" meaning that strict compartmentalization procedures are to be followed. Right there, that's three felonies worth 2 - 5 years in prison a piece for a normal person.
In addition to the above, said copies were then removed from the Secretary of State's SCIF (a violation of the afore mentioned compartmentalization procedures) digital copies were then uploaded to a staffer's personal computer and then sent to Clinton's personal email account in the clear (ie unencrypted) over an unsecured internet connection. (Something most security types would agree constitutes gross negligence). At some point the digital copies are altered to remove their tags and tracking data implying that somebody knew that they were being naughty and adding another 3 three felonies to the pile. The documents were recovered in the possession of an unnamed staffer's spouse (who did not have a security clearance) during an unrelated criminal investigation revealing at minimum of 3 known instances of Unauthorized Disclosure (more felonies).
Investigators subpoenaed the staffer's* email history at which point the Clinton server suffered an unfortunate loss of, oh who are we kidding, they wiped the server to destroy the evidence rather than answer the subpoena wich is about as clear-cut a case of Federal Obstruction of Justice as a prosecutor could ask for.
In contrast the FBI raided Trump's home in Mar-a-Lago for an alleged breach far less egregious than any of these.
*let's be blunt, given that the material was recovered from Anthony Weiner's personal computer while he was being investigated for child-porn and cyberstalking we can surmise that the staffer in question was Huma Abedin.
I still don't understand what argument you think you're making either then or now.
The thing that MacNamara is famous for in military circles and the thing you seem to be referencing is his efforts to make the US Military "More Efficient" by emphasizing technology over troops. Why bother with strict recruitment standards or waste money on training, housing, medical care, etc... if all you need is a gaggle of conscripts to draw fire so the airplanes know where to drop their bombs? Or so the thinking went.
What I don't understand, and what neither you nor the OP, @aardvark2, @SwordOfOccam, Et Al have bothered to explain is how MacNamara acting like the uncharitable strawman of a Silicon Valley Utilitarian is supposed to convince anyone that we ought to start treating minorities as second-class citizens, or has anything to do with HBD, Ashkenazi Jews, or Group differences in IQ.
HlynkaCG
old man yelling at clouds
8mo ago
And that point would hat be?
If there is an argument that hes trying to make i dont see it. In the meantime McNamara's legacy as SecDef is one of why no one should ever listen to WEIRD systematizing utilitarian types who think they can fix things with this one weird trick.
I can conceive it I just don't believe that's the real motive.
I don't think it's a coincidence at all those who were pushing DEI back during the Bush administration have transitioned to pushing HBD now that their chief opponents are secular academics rather than conservative Christians. As I've said before, the party (and the Partisans) of Woodrow Wilson, never changed sides, just their branding. Whether it's white hoods in 1920 or black hoodies in 2020 it's the same fundamentally anti-american (and dare I say it anti-western) bullshit. The greatest trick the DNC ever played was convincing the media and a whole generation of idiots with PHDs that they weren't the real racists.
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