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We signed a death warrant on Science the moment we thought it could be a "neutral" way of resolving political disputes. The instant that idea was entertained Science was doomed to either go the Olson Kennedy route, where scientists themselves abandon the scientific process in pursuit of their political agenda, or to be brought to heel by another institution with political power (and I agree with the other poster, that it's better to have politics be done by a transparently political institution, than under the guise of "neutrality").

For you to get what you want, we'd need to take science out of politics.

Has anyone else noticed a clear "vibe shift" on trans issues recently?

Funny you ask, I noticed something a year and a half ago.

I'm am curious where this trend continues. Is it going to go all the way? Will trans issues be seen as the weird 2010s, early 2020s political project that had ardent supporters, but eventually withered away and died like the desegregation bussing movement?

A question that intruiges me as well. My guess is that that it will be entirely forgotten the same way that the pedo rights movement of the 70's was. Sure every once in a while someone will dig out some receipts, and it will be seen as that weird thing that apparently happened in the past, but it will not be something pinnable on the progressive movement

The New York Times just published an article on a trans study not being published for ideological reasons

According to the brief you mentioned, WPATH is sitting on like a dozen of those. I posted about it too.

Not really, you just got used to the pre-Musk censorship regime.

All posts need to be manually approved by mods, even for veteran posters.

I expect people to say "damn those republicans, why are they so easy to appeal to with what does not appeal to us". Which people do say.

Sure, I'll take that as an example of what people would say if Trump was hitting a nerve. So I guess we agree?

The way I see it, fool me once means shame on you. But fool me twice, thrice, a million times, and you're an "honest liar" and we're supposed to regard you as someone so detached from truth that it's not even in question whether anyone is actually being deceived

So again, what's your take on advertising? I actually think it's cancer myself, and wouldn't mind banning it, but I can't quite get angry over it, since it's been part of the landscape for the entirety if my life. And even when I think it's bad for society, I can't help but enjoy some ads when they're funny, witty, or catchy enough. From there it's hard to get mad at Trump in particular, when everybody else is doing it all the time.

Another idle week as far as programming goes, how's your stuff going @Southkraut?

Also, re: last week's comment on Redot:

It's more alive than I expected. My confidence in it going places is still low, but I do suppose I'm already somewhat surprised

Yeah, I was a bit more hopeful from the start. Looking at their social media, there seemed to be a decent amount of activity. Also, as far as I can gather, politics was not the primary / only motivation for the fork, it seems like people where getting frustrated with the technical side of how the engine was managed, and the political drama was just a good opportunity to channel that frustration.

Eyeballing people's reactions, it seems the userbase wasn't actually as political as the community managers would like, and you were far from alone. Let's see how it goes.

Am I missing something? That doesn't seem like very compelling evidence.

Where are those legions who express the belief that it is unbefitting of Trump to appeal to the common folk (as opposed to saying it's wrong to falsely appeal)? I've linked mine.

It's the same link. You don't really expect people to outright say "damn that Trump, why is he so appealing?" even that's what they feel, do you?

What's your platform that is not a propaganda platform

We're running short on those these days. I guess you can still post anything you want on Substack.

It's also bad, in my personal opinion, because it's transparently dishonest to associate yourself with menial work that you do not do and have never done

I'd chalk it up to getting upset at Gillette's slogan again, except:

If Kamala is acting like her time at McDonalds was a nightmare, she's at least being honest

This is completely backwards. There is no evidence she has spent a single day working in McDonalds. It's Trump who's honest here because his "lie" is just advertising, and everybody knows how it works. Kamala is the dishonest one, because people (including you) actually believe she made a factual statement about herself.

This is also how we know people upset at this aren't upset at dishonesty or stolen valor. No one who is criticizing Trump for this will turn around to criticize Harris, when it's pointed out she didn't work for McDonald's.

My point isn't about shoving petty status games into romantic relationships (which as you point out were always there), it was about shoving politics there.

No one? Not one single person on planet Earth? Well sure then.

Most people on planet Earth have never heard about it. Most people who will see this will think "heh, that's kinda funny". Somewhere, out there, there might be some lonely indivuduals upset at the valor stolen from service workers, but they'll be drowned out by legions that are upset that Trump did something mildly appealing to the common folk.

Of those service workers whose viewpoint I do see on Reddit, or for example on various discords, they're closer to /r/antiwork in their ideology than to "it's 'onest work".

"Of those service workers whose viewpoint I do see on Reddit" had to pass through so many filters that it will bear no resemblance to any remotely normal person. Reddit is a propaganda platform.

Unfortunately, our visceral resonances seem to be at odds.

I know this will sound weird, but I don't know if I believe you. Kavanaugh being a rapist vs. not was a disagreement of visceral resonances, Rittenhouse being a murderer vs. an innocent kid was a disagreement of visceral resonances... but this? The only visceral feeling I get here from the progressive side is "Trump bad. This good for Trump, therefore this bad".

There's definitely a stolen valor angle.

I'd be open to the possibility, but no one who's freaking out about it seems to be credibly approaching it from the "stolen valor" angle.

Do you think upper PMC democrats are the ones posting on Reddit about the entire thing being a sham?

I'm sorry what? Do you think /r/antiwork, or the entirety of Reddit for that matter, is in any way representative of a typical McDonald's worker?

To me it looks like there's a huge disconnect between themotte's view of a typical democrat voter and reality.

This isn't about The Motte. It's one of those things that has visceral resonance, and the more you push back against it, the more it will look like Trump had a point to begin with.

Thanks for the explanation, it was a real head-scratcher to me how anyone could be upset at his endorsement, but it makes sense now. Though it's some real Game of Thrones shit, and more cunning then I'd expect from an 80 year old man.

How are they not bankrupt? It was their only redeeming quality.

Why associate yourself with unhealthy, bland consumerist food? Mcdonalds should represent the opposite of what the right stands for. It is the antithesis of tradition, beauty, culture, small business and family.

I really can't get myself into the headspace of someone who doesn't understand what this stunt is about.

McDonnald's is low-status precisely for the reasons you point out, but people eat there because it's affordable, and they work there because they'll hire anyone right off the street. He's showing he's on the side of people dismissed as "low-status".

that it was fake

Duh, he's a politician on the campaign trail. There's something "It's Okay To Be White" about this, where most of the propaganda value of the stunt is in the reaction. A lot has been said about Trump's decline, and I agree, he's not the same man he was in 2016, but either he, or someone running his campaign, still seems to have the touch.

Funnily enough I find it far more upsetting that they're shoving politics into personal romantic relationships than that they're turning political discourse into a status game.

Also in many European countries (including Ireland and the UK) most police officers are unarmed.

I don't think this is the case in most of continental Europe.

I think that Biden's Kamala endorsement was just a brilliant fuck you to obama.

I'm not really following the happenings, what did he do, and how was it an FU to Obama?

Noice!

This works (well, if it compiled) as a standalone project, or do I have to figure out Stride to get it working?

Aren't organizations incentivized to make the problem they're fighting look worse? Students reach new lows on standardized tests - give more funding to schools; We're falling behind in a particular field of research - give more money for researchers; No one wants to pay for elite art - subsidize elite art; More generally, if you express even the faintest interest in supporting a charity or a nonprofit, they will bombard you with newsletters about how terrible things are, and how the world will end if you don't send them money RIGHT NOW!

And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't most of these crimes outside of FBI jurisdiction to begin with?

Whoever those fudged numbers are supposed to make look better, it's probably not the FBI, and outside political pressure seems pretty likely, especially when we know for a fact it goes unpunished in the event it's discovered, and undisputable.

The same way I explain debates over methodology in academia, which result in a peer review process that can't outperform laymen simply looking at studies' titles.

Yeah, I can imagine. Still:

  • I don't know if I want to fuck around with that stuff after my experience
  • It's still terrifying to realize I got the equivalent of black-out / vomit-all-over-the-place drunk, on what you're telling me is the equivalent of a single can of Bud Light. I wonder how I'd react if my first hit was the stuff you have in the US.

Well, that's terrifying...

Amsterdam weed was the first and only time I tried it, and ended up feeling how my IQ is dropping in real-time, and having a rather disturbing disassociative experience. Someone later told me I may have had too much for my first time, but if that's the "light" variant... damn...

Yes, and you seem to be implying there's something strange about that?

If the bias is consistently in the same direction, I find it unlikely that they are actually trying to correct it. I'd have to look up the post I'm citing, but I think they were talking about Sweden where their right-populist party was underestimated during one election, overestimated in the next one, and finally estimated correctly in the one after that. This is what you'd expect to see if they were trying.