ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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8d ago
What I don't get is that you brought it up as an issue that prevents you from cutting a deal with the right. By your admission it's identity politics either way, and you don't seem to be as averse to cutting deals with the left, so why does the other shade of idpol prevent you from cutting a deal?
Not even Trump could build a machine that produces Trumps;
Some people are hyping up his kid, so it might turn out he literally is that machine himself.
ArjinFerman
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8d ago
have you seen orbital launch graphs?
Yes, most of them are for themselves. If Starlink doesn't cover their costs, and there's not data to show that either way, this number doesn't mean anything. Though there's a wildcard here, where the whole Starlink thing might turn out to be a front for some Pentagon and/or CIA black-op, which would money is not an issue, but there's no way to tell with publicly available information.
launch cost graphs?
I straight-up don't believe them.
reducing costs with reusable rockets was a joke before spaceX
I think it still is.
There's things like college sports where a women's divisions were established by a supposedly-liberal state decree in the first place (Title IX, I think). What's illiberal about enforcing that they remain women's divisions?
ArjinFerman
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8d ago
The most egregious cancellation of all time imho (James Damore) happened under Trump.
Man, we need some Catalogue of Cancellations, because I've lost track of what happened to who, and when. In any case I'd say the Twitter Files and Zucks confession of the government putting pressure to censor dissidents is probably more egregious.
ArjinFerman
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8d ago
Sure, you can have a liberal "my body, my choice" based argument on transgenderism, but it's about adults making their own decisions about their own bodies, not about abolishing sex-segregation in sports and all other spaces. Somehow liberals managed to go on a couple centuries without arguing for that, until like 5 minutes ago.
ArjinFerman
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8d ago
Trump held up a rainbow flag, and now in 2024 his campaign is at least 25% about how transgenderism is destroying womens' sports.
In what way is that against liberalism?
ArjinFerman
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8d ago
I'm mostly sticking to my guns. There are things that are causing me to adjust - I kept my mouth shut, but internally I was expecting a giant fireball at Boca Chica, not a successful booster catch. But I don't think that's enough to change my appraisal on him running his companies mostly on hype. Also if you check my big anti-Elon post, I ranked his companies from best to worst, and I rated Twitter at the top. If it wasn't for the advertiser boycott - which I consider a political affair, rather than anything market-driven - he'd be making bank off of it, and taking it to profitability, I think for the first time ever.
I'm actually somewhat worried he'll tank the whole MAGA thing by using his connections to Trump to try to save himself. But if it helps - I hope I'll be proven embarrassingly wrong, and y'all will get to shit on me for being a retard for all of eternity.
ArjinFerman
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8d ago
Well from my point of view, things did dramatically de-escalate with Biden.
Was it anything specific that gave you that impression? As far as I can tell to the extent things got better, it was a result of Reds escalating, not Blues de-escalating - Elon buying Twitter, the Bud Light boycott, Red states banning gender affirming care for minors...
But I think what I'm trying to say is that it's easier to critique idpol leftism when idpol leftism is explicitly in power.
I'm not interested in critique that doesn't result in anything.
Hell, how much of this was made possible by Elon buying Twitter?
All of it. Pre-Elon it was a regular occurrence for me to go "oooh, there goes another one" as another mildly interesting, not even very spicy, account gets the ban hammer. If it was still under old management, they'd probably be cracking down on Peanut the squirrel memes. That's without mentioning the impact of things like Community Notes.
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
Back in 2020 some people here tried to say a Biden win will the blue tribe to de-escalate, only for all the things you're warning about here to happen anyway. They'll keep on clamping down on dissent no matter what, they're doing it even in countries with no Trump. The idea they'd go easy on us if we let them win is hard to take seriously at this point.
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
Is there any chance people are being hasty on this, or are the numbers such that it's impossible for the end result to change?
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
That's not an axiomatic belief, it's a derived belief based on your definitions of "man" and "woman," which in turn descend from your beliefs about the duties and privileges a society should afford to members of each sex,
This is false. My definition of "man" and "woman" has nothing to do with duties and privileges a society should afford to members of each sex, and believing that it does already effectively means believing that men can be women relative to my definitions.
you could actually have a productive discussion with leftists about
To the extent you could have a reasonable exchange of ideas with a person like that, those ideas would not be representative of what is actually being pushed by their political establishment. This person would not acknowledge what the establishment is actually doing, instead they would constantly sane-wash it into something palatable. If you provide evidence that the sane-washed version ins't what's being pushed, and the version you're objecting to is, two things might happen depending on the temperament of the person: conversion ends, or they'll the thing they just swore isn't happening is actually good. I don't think that's a productive conversation.
You're assuming people here are siloed off in an echo-chamber. Please consider the possibility that we've been having these conversations for a long time, and what you claim simply does not fit our experience.
discussion with leftists
I doubt you'd change your mind, or the liberal's mind
Why are you conflating liberals with leftists?
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
The misinformation in your post and on twitter in general is reaching insane levels. People were voting without American citizenship?Really? Is there any proof of that actually happening?
Other people already posted links, what made you think this is something that couldn't have happened, and anyone believing otherwise must to be a result of "insane levels" of misinformation?
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
We all feel like we just got here, and the 2016 election is one of the reasons why many of us are here to begin with. We feel like it was barely yesterday.
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
How have you been doing @Southkraut?
Redot
So I had a some time this week and decided to give Redot another look. Turns out that their Twitter accunt has been hacked because of course it was, but other than that they seem to be chugging along. There's finally a build that runs on my distro of Linux out of the box, so I'm dusting off some of my old sandboxes, and going over the docs, because it's been a while since I did anything with Godot.
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
Funny, but you know what I mean,
Yes, but I like my version better.
"Assigned gender at birth" can rescue you if you have a pre-transition person that already wants to change their gender, but it won't when "universally regarded" includes the person in question themselves. If they denied that men can be women, that would mean someone who changed their mind later on either has always been a woman, or that they're not a woman now, which pro-trans people don't believe.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
The Holocaust denial, YEC conspiracies and extreme esoteric weird online stuff seems more a consequence of being at home in a foreign country with a phone and babies for company;
Man, when did kids go from asking why is the sky blue to "I don't get it, mama, how can you dispose of so many bodies in such short time? They didn't have enough crematoriums in Auschwitz, it makes no sense, mama!"?
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
people who have Read The Sequences hold that 'man' and 'woman' are an inaccurate map of a more complicated territory
The left != people who have Read The Sequences. Also, I don't see how this idea is any less kooky.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
There was a story about British Labour staffers working for Kamala as well. If this isn't illegal, I feel like it should be. I hope it doesn't kick off some trend where Americans help European parties in their campaigns.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
So would you say it is unlikely that the dude got radicalized by Islamists, or are you just pointing out this is not a smoking gun? The latter claim is not interesting, as it's only a matter of time until it gets resolved now that there's a full-blown terrorism investigation. But I don't think this should be an argument that allows people to throw a wet blanket on the conversation around immigration and Islam.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
I mean that the whole framework is designed so that you never end up having to eat crow. "My priors for this are very low. Oh, it happened anyway? Oh well, I promise to bump up my priors somewhat for the next time this non-repeatable event happens!".
I will never wrap my head around the American electoral system. Why in Jesus' name do statements from press associations carry weight on this issue?
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