Amadan
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Amadan
More equal than others
15hr ago
“Superintelligence” is a more useful term in several contexts than “AI” was.
How is it more useful, and in what contexts? The things you want to call superintelligence that are called AI today - how does calling them SI aid in clarity and communication? What are the things you think should be distinguished from "AI" which are being inaccurately and confusingly called AI today? Saying it is a more useful term implies that it conveys information that is not expressed by the current (accurate) term, and that this is causing confusion.
You cannot answer any of those things, because there is only one reason you're using the "new" term. Are you even aware of what "superintelligence" means to AI scientists? Do you understand the distinction between AGI and SI? What do you propose we call what used to be known as "superintelligence" instead?
Knowing what words mean, and thinking it's stupid to issue EOs forcing people to do search-and-replaces in thousands of federal documents because the President got pissy at AI safetyists and data center opponents is not freaking out. I am annoyed. I am annoyed at Trump, and I am annoyed at people who eagerly signal their obeisance to this foolishness.
Amadan
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22hr ago
I have no great words of wisdom or advice. What I will say is:
(1) Yes, you have lost time you will never get back. It's okay to regret that. But regret is the most useless emotion. It doesn't change anything. And every day, you are losing more time. So-
(2) You say you keep starting and failing. You start, persist for a while, hit a bump, and quit. It sounds a lot like addiction. It's harsh to tell people whose problem is will, "Just have more willpower." But finding the will is really the only solution. Eventually the gears catch and you move, or you don't. A support system is really useful and to that end, I understand you've had problems building friendships and a social support network, but you should explore ways to connect, find people with shared interests (hopefully not online crazy people like us who will take you down a rabbit hole). I don't say that like you can just will a friend group into existence, but you don't live in the wilderness (I assume)... there are people. Start meeting some.
Amadan
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22hr ago
I am reading what you're writing. You're referring to hypothetical technologies that don't actually exist yet and saying when they exist we should call them superintelligence. Okay, cool. But I am talking about applying that label now to existing technology. You, by your own admission, started using the term the moment Trump did. I don't think you understand the terms or the tech any better than Trump does.
All the compute being built will be used - yes, no duh. But that won't make it superintelligence. Using it for more and more things won't make it superintelligence. Calling what we build now "superintelligence" because it will be used for "infinite" things is just PR for AI companies, which once again, I wouldn't care about much beyond an eyeroll if the PR wasn't being enforced with an Orwellian Executive Order.
I'm not sure if you honestly don't get this, or... Well, I have already been absurdly accused of "TDS", but what do you call someone who will immediately say the sun is the moon if Trump declares it so?
Amadan
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1d ago
I would use SI when talking about something that actually qualifies as superintelligence (generally speaking, the hypothetical future point at which AI has surpassed AGI and become literally superintelligent). No existing AI comes remotely close to that. A list of all the things AI can or will be able to do does not make it "superintelligence," because the key word there is "intelligence." We don't consider calculators superintelligent because they can do math thousands of times faster than a human; artificial neural networks obviously can do much more than calculate, but they still are nowhere near that quantum leap into superintelligence.
If you want to make a new definition for superintelligence that is different from what the industry and the AI field uses, okay, go you. But I'm absolutely going to continue to think it's retarded to call ChatGPT and Gemini and Opus "superintelligence," which Trump's Executive Order literally requires the federal government to do.
Amadan
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1d ago
Yeah, I'm familiar. But are we really proposing not just to deport the Mooslims but Ellis Islanders and their descendants as well? Come on. It's all well and good to bemoan historical trends and mistakes you think we made a century ago, but there's based, and then there's KulakRevolt level insanity, which is sometimes perversely entertaining to read but not something I think anyone but very sick people actually consider recommendable policy.
Amadan
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1d ago
I don't actually disagree, but I am not sure what you are specifically proposing. Jews and Muslims and Indians are assumed to be loyal to Israel/Palestine/India, or what? If someone declares their allegiance to a foreign country, yes, they are in violation of their oath. If someone talks about their deep cultural connection to a foreign country and you think that is a foreign loyalty, then you're going to have to exclude Irish-, Italian-, Swedish-, Mexican- etc Americans as well.
Amadan
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1d ago
He's clearly a troll, but the comment you replied to is a good one. In a post-scarcity world, why should people born in one place get better gibs than others?
It's a fair question, but like many valid questions, there are thoughtful ways to discuss it, and there are belligerently eye-poking ways meant to provoke people. The former is called discussion, and is suitable for a discussion forum. The latter is called trolling, and is not.
Even his trolling pretty cute most of the time, in my opinion. I think we'd be worse off without him here.
I'm sure you do.
Amadan
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2d ago
What's the difference between someone who benefits from being born in the right place and someone who benefits from being born into the right caste/family?
What makes you any more deserving of your unearned accident-of-birth benefits?
You're on thin ice with the race-baiting triumphalism you've been ramping up again lately. I'm letting it go because we certainly have white nationalists who say things just as bad about their outgroup, but your history is particularly bad and you're only getting a pass because your last final warning was seven months ago. But I can very clearly see that you're having fun trolling again. I still don't think banning you would be any loss.
Amadan
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2d ago
Come on, now. I'm trying to be generous here, but "the Trump guy" who goes off using Trump phrases is noticeable, and it's not my overfocus to notice this in a thread that is largely about Trump. He's not using "superintelligence" in its normal sense, but in its Trumpian sense. I don't think you are being serious, I think you just like saying things like "TDS." There is a flip side of TDS, you know, where any criticism of Trump or Trumpish memes or Trumpish coinages triggers a knee-jerk "TDS!" response.
Amadan
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2d ago
If Trump were talking about a hypothetical future when SI exists, I would shrug and think he's being optimistic and grandiose, as usual, but he literally issued an Execute Order requiring the federal government to call existing AI "SI." You calling it "superintelligence" just reads like you using Dear Leader's newly-minted buzzword. I mean, I don't recall you ever using that phrase until five minutes after Trump's EO.
Amadan
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2d ago
And I've seen some unhinged accusations of "TDS" before, but this is pretty out there.
No, buddy. Superintelligence has a definition in AI research, and none of our existing AI is superintelligence. Trump literally issued an Execute Order requiring the federal government to call AI "SI." Federal agencies are being required to scrub references to "Artificial Intelligence" and replace it with "Super Intelligence" in all their documentation. It is absolutely retarded.
That is what I am objecting to. It's not "TDS" because I hate anything Trump does. It's annoyance that Trump issued a "deer horse" EO.
Amadan
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2d ago
I think "deadnaming" (neologism), or not using the "prefered pronouns" (again, recently invented set phrase) was at one point declared to be against the rules of this community.
Even if "deadnaming" were against the rules (strictly speaking, it is not - we will mod you for being an asshole about it, but not just for referring to Caitlyn as Bruce), it does not apply to technologies arbitrarily reacronymed by Executive Order.
Amadan
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2d ago
Well, no, you are required to uphold and defend the Constitution, and if someone literally said "I don't believe in the Constitution and I want to destroy the Republic," there'd be a good case to deny that person office. But whatever you might suspect about certain elected officials, merely holding political or religious views contrary to what the Founders would have approved of doesn't mean someone isn't capable of following the Constitution.
Amadan
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2d ago
Superintelligence
Please, please, please, for the love of Ahura Mazda, stop this.
I know, it's petty, and of all the things Trump has done that I dislike, declaring that AI should be called "Superintelligence" shouldn't be at the top of my list, but it is absurdity of the highest order to issue an Executive Order based on a shower thought. "Superintelligence" actually has a meaning in the AI field, and other than trolling people I can't even see what Trump's point was in doing this. Is it supposed to "own the libs" who hate data centers? Why the heck would you immediately switch to the new term like a Party member just notified of the latest un-words?
I agreed with most of the points in your top-level and thought it was a good and thoughtful post, for whatever that is worth.
Amadan
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2d ago
You misunderstand what we mean by consensus-building; you don't get to express disdain for your outgroup as long as you're in the majority, and you are not allowed to recruit for a cause or assume that "everyone" is on your side. It is probably true that the majority of people here are right-leaning and unhappy with the electoral results. That doesn't matter. This isn't a right-leaning forum for you to rally support against the electoral results.
And doesn't this from you: "almost certainly a sockpuppet, and very likely a ban evader, consider yourself on notice and on our radar" constitute name-calling and bullying?
No, it constitutes an observation and a warning.
Amadan
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2d ago
I think the clause speaks for itself, but if unclear, my appeal is to the logic that the Founder's intent should prevail and be respected.
That logic is not in the Constitution. You may believe we should "respect the Founder's intent" (and that only Christians should be allowed to hold office) but that's not what they wrote.
Amadan
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2d ago
What the hell? You two are behaving terribly. I just gave @georgioz a one-day ban for his "FUCK YOU" crash-out, but your much calmer but just as unnecessary ad hominems are no better. You're not arguing, you're just trading sneers and seeing who can out-condescend the other. You can take a day off too.
Amadan
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2d ago
FUCK YOU.
I don't know why this topic got you so emotional, but even with your long record of AAQCs, this is not acceptable. Take a day to cool off.
I find your view abhorrent disgusting and I would strip you of citizenship if I could.
Are you young? Are you white? You seem like you are from a foreign culture? You talk like your Indian.
You've been warned to stop doing this, and as I noted last time, every time you are warned you cool it just long enough to hope we'll forget.
We don't forget.
Ad hominems like this are about as clear-cut a violation of the rules as you can get without a straight-up "fuck you."
One month ban. Next time probably permanent.
ETA: Extended to two months for post-ban edit-arguing.
Amadan
More equal than others
3d ago
Do not throw your two cents into a slapfight that doesn't involve you because you are harboring a grudge.
Amadan
More equal than others
3d ago
You posted this in two places. If you hadn't already gotten multiple responses in both places, I'd delete one. This post is borderline in itself; we try to give lots of leeway to people bringing their best and most interesting/borderline-crazy ideas, but I am already frowning at all the posts that amount to "We lost/We are in trouble/this is a disaster for us" and your entire post amounts to an appeal to a consensus that does not exist here. Since you are also a newly-rolled account, almost certainly a sockpuppet, and very likely a ban evader, consider yourself on notice and on our radar.
Amadan
More equal than others
3d ago
I'm gonna let that go 'cause it's funny, but really, not appropriate for a top-level post.
Amadan
More equal than others
3d ago
I see once more we have thought of the novel idea, "What if we could make it so our enemies don't get to vote?"
I'm sorry to inform you that if the American people want to vote for communism or Shariah law or the Hunger Games, the Constitution does not in fact prevent that.
Everything you've said about how Israel is an illegitimate colonizing power is also true of the US and Canada. You're surely aware of that. What the Arab revisionists say about "Is-not-real" is what a lot indigenous activists say about "Turtle Island." The only real difference is time and practicality - Arabs still believe if they get enough of the world to sympathize with them, they can destroy Israel, while even the most radical Native groups don't believe in their wildest dreams that they can expel white people from North America. Your straw men aside (hardly anyone literally defends "might makes right" as a principal, and democratists are quite aware of the failure mods of governing by popular sentiment, which is why the Founding Fathers went to great lengths to try to prevent that), yes, the reality is that a country has historical inertia. Many countries began as colonizing powers, as foreign invaders, with expulsion or subjugation of the previous inhabitants. Even accepting that narrative about Israel as true (and at best, it's a half-truth), once a country is established, you're not going to intellectually masturbate your way into delegitimizing it.
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